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Old 12-18-2005, 03:30 PM
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Default ($33) JJ bubble vs Big Bully

So i was lost. How short does shorty have to be for this to be a fold? Assume big stack is pushing top 50%. How about any 2? He has been pushing almost every hand since we got down to 4, so any 2 wouldnt be too far off.

Blinds 100/200
Shorty ~400
Button ~1800
Bully ~ 4600
Hero ~ 1200

2 Folds. Bully pushes.
Hero has JJ.
Hero does what?
If i fold, what can i call with?
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Old 12-18-2005, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: ($33) JJ bubble vs Big Bully

Nasty situation.. I think I could find a call here, simply because you'll otherwise be pushing any two into the shorty who will call any two, and losing that will leave you as the short stack.
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Old 12-18-2005, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: ($33) JJ bubble vs Big Bully

If he really is pushing any two btw, you should definitely call. The inflection point (I'm allowing also for a slight reduction in UTG's stack as he will definitely lose chips overall the next round, whatever happens) is 53% push for SB.
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Old 12-18-2005, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: ($33) JJ bubble vs Big Bully

top 50% is QQ+....close enough for me. he should be pushing any two here (becoming 99+). you're short stack after passing through these blinds if/when shortie doubles in his. if you had even 400 more chips, folding would be easier - if not prudent.
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Old 12-18-2005, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: ($33) JJ bubble vs Big Bully

Top 53% is JJ+ blue.. 3% is just really such a small difference in hands that I'm taking the risk here. Anyway you have to be only around about 70% favourite here, so even if he has Ax or Kx (with x below Q obviously) you're calling correctly.
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Old 12-18-2005, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: ($33) JJ bubble vs Big Bully

I have to call with only 6bb behind, plus you have a read on him which should be a HUGE factor in your decision to call. He is probably drawing to 3 outs.
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Old 12-18-2005, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: ($33) JJ bubble vs Big Bully

Well i figured that JJ was very close either way. After taking up most of my time bank, i decided to fold. I'm in a nice little 25 buyin downswing, so i figured that if i could just get into the money, maybe it would help mentally.

That doesn't usually affect my decision, but if i had lost that hand, it would have hurt more than normal.

It might be -EV in the short term, but +EV in the long term (mentally.) Does that make sense, or am i just trying to convince myself i made the right move?
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Old 12-18-2005, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: ($33) JJ bubble vs Big Bully

The latter.. sorry.
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Old 12-18-2005, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: ($33) JJ bubble vs Big Bully

ehh, good to know. Thanks for the replies.
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Old 12-18-2005, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: ($33) JJ bubble vs Big Bully

Easy call. ~70% chance to basically lock in a money finish and great chance at 2nd or 1st is a no brainer. Folding here is just too weak for me. Even if you are on a bad losing streak you shouldnt factor that into your decision here, it has nothing to do with the current game.
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