20/40 AK against Rory and AKo against DrGutshot

imported_stealthcow · #1 10-04-2005, 09:30 PM

We're playing at the 20/40 game for the same reason, big fish. its rory, should i check this turn?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises, UTG+2 3-bets, 7 folds, Hero caps, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets...

DrG is a very good player. but based on the fact that he bought in for $12345 and he likes to talk in all caps and we're home town friends, i think his 3betting range may be slightly larger then he would agaisnt an unknown with my stats (25/20ish for 6max)

Party Poker 20/40 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 1 fold, CO 3-bets, 3 folds, Hero caps, CO calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

River: (8.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, Hero...

baronzeus · #2 10-04-2005, 09:32 PM

1) no.

2) pretty sure he's not 3betting with a worse hand on the river. plus every single draw ever got there.

gaming_mouse · #3 10-04-2005, 09:38 PM

1) Easy bet. He's checking behind hands you beat but that he would call a bet with.

2) I'd bet/call the river. As you played it, I don't know what to do. If you think there's a decent chance he's getting fresh with you, you have to call. But you are probably beat.

Lmn55d · #4 10-04-2005, 09:55 PM

My standard line in hand 1 would to bet as well. However, what hands do you think he's checking behind that he would call a bet with? I can only think of *possibly* like JJ or something like that.

imported_stealthcow · #5 10-04-2005, 10:02 PM

hand 1:

if rory 3bet AQ, he's drawing dead. he might call on a A or Q river. if he's got QQ-JJ, drawing to 2 outs isn't too big a deal. i think i can bet call a Q river and check call a J river (maybe inducing a bluff) if the turn goes check check, and he might call a river blank with QQ-JJ.

also, if he has AA i save a bet because i am not good enough to fold to a turn raise there from basically anyone

stealthcow-

Lmn55d · #6 10-04-2005, 10:10 PM

if you think he will fold TT/JJ to a turn bet a turn check seems like a reasonable line. This is assuming he either bets turn or checks it and calls the river. Am i missing something? If he thinks your capping range is like 99+, AJ+ or something you should definitely be betting.

surfdoc · #7 10-04-2005, 10:34 PM

Since when are there 20/40 6 max tables?

gaming_mouse · #8 10-05-2005, 09:50 AM

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My standard line in hand 1 would to bet as well. However, what hands do you think he's checking behind that he would call a bet with? I can only think of *possibly* like JJ or something like that.

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How about KQ? Even KJs... Keep in mind that hero's capping range is probably wider than normal here, and rory knows this.

MAxx · #9 10-05-2005, 10:04 AM

1) Bet... but I think I see an argument for not betting, but I still like betting more.
2) c/r looks good, but I think you can safely fold to a 3bet here.

Lmn55d · #10 10-05-2005, 12:23 PM

is rory 3betting with KJs? KQ?