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Old 10-08-2005, 03:20 PM
marv marv is offline
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When you compute the probability of player 2 picking up AA given that player 1 picked up AA, what value are you using?


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0.000816327
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Old 10-08-2005, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: looking good

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When you compute the probability of player 2 picking up AA given that player 1 picked up AA, what value are you using?


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0.000816327

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Yep, agree.

Ok, here's a possible verification point:

For short enough stacks, BB must always call. If BB always calls, then SB must also play a pure strategy (I don't know if this is rigorous, but I find it to be true.)

If SB is playing a pure strategy, then the LP is trivial: we choose those hands that are +EV, and fold everything else.

If blinds are 1/2 and stacks 4, and BB is calling everything, SB's hands are -EV if his equity is < 3/8 vs. a random hand.

So SB's only fold hands are: 83o,42s,82o,73o,53o,63o,32s,43o,72o,52o,62o,42o,32 o.

c.f. http://www.jazbo.com/poker/huholdem.html

Do you agree and recover that solution?

eastbay
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Old 10-08-2005, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: looking good

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When you compute the probability of player 2 picking up AA given that player 1 picked up AA, what value are you using?


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0.000816327

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Yep, agree.

Ok, here's a possible verification point:

For short enough stacks, BB must always call. If BB always calls, then SB must also play a pure strategy (I don't know if this is rigorous, but I find it to be true.)

If SB is playing a pure strategy, then the LP is trivial: we choose those hands that are +EV, and fold everything else.

If blinds are 1/2 and stacks 4, and BB is calling everything, SB's hands are -EV if his equity is < 3/8 vs. a random hand.

So SB's only fold hands are: 83o,42s,82o,73o,53o,63o,32s,43o,72o,52o,62o,42o,32 o.

c.f. http://www.jazbo.com/poker/huholdem.html

Do you agree and recover that solution?

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Agreed. I had a bug, and now get exactly the same strategy as you for the 300/600 problem, and a value of 6.60878 in the BB's favour, as you did.

This was a good test example.

Marv
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Old 10-08-2005, 06:34 PM
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Default Re: looking good

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When you compute the probability of player 2 picking up AA given that player 1 picked up AA, what value are you using?


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0.000816327

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Yep, agree.

Ok, here's a possible verification point:

For short enough stacks, BB must always call. If BB always calls, then SB must also play a pure strategy (I don't know if this is rigorous, but I find it to be true.)

If SB is playing a pure strategy, then the LP is trivial: we choose those hands that are +EV, and fold everything else.

If blinds are 1/2 and stacks 4, and BB is calling everything, SB's hands are -EV if his equity is < 3/8 vs. a random hand.

So SB's only fold hands are: 83o,42s,82o,73o,53o,63o,32s,43o,72o,52o,62o,42o,32 o.

c.f. http://www.jazbo.com/poker/huholdem.html

Do you agree and recover that solution?

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Agreed. I had a bug, and now get exactly the same strategy as you for the 300/600 problem, and a value of 6.60878 in the BB's favour, as you did.

This was a good test example.

Marv

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Nice. Two trials is a proof. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 11-17-2005, 11:42 AM
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If blinds are 1/2 and stacks 4, and BB is calling everything, SB's hands are -EV if his equity is < 3/8 vs. a random hand.

So SB's only fold hands are: 83o,42s,82o,73o,53o,63o,32s,43o,72o,52o,62o,42o,32 o.

c.f. http://www.jazbo.com/poker/huholdem.html

Do you agree and recover that solution?

eastbay

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Is it correct, that with blinds 1/2 with only 2 Chips and 32o SB should fold? (< 1/3 equity)
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