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Old 08-26-2005, 06:33 PM
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Default Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ...

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Call and lead a non heart turn. It's very likely that if Barron is semibluffing 3betting has almost neutral EV.

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3-betting has nowhere near neutral EV HU against someone capable of raising a fairly wide range of hands on this flop.
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Old 08-26-2005, 06:35 PM
BarronVangorToth BarronVangorToth is offline
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Default Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ... ME

Okay, so you 3-bet, but Barron 4-bets it.

He must have Aces!

Fold!

You forget that since it's heads-up that you can reraise and you mistakenly believe that you can only call, which you do.

Pot: $145 (7.25 BB)

Turn: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Board: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

What do you do?

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Old 08-26-2005, 06:37 PM
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Default Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ...

Bet/3-bet.
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Old 08-26-2005, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ... ME

bet and call down if im raised
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Old 08-27-2005, 02:34 AM
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Default Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ... ME

Reading the leading posters at this site, I sometimes feel like the definition of a nit, but I also 3-bet this flop and bet- 3 bet the turn.
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Old 08-27-2005, 03:25 AM
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Default Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ... ME

GOOD GOD MAN WHAT DOES HE HAVE
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Old 08-27-2005, 05:24 AM
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Default Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ... ME

Check call when BVT spikes an A on river.
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Old 08-27-2005, 09:22 AM
BarronVangorToth BarronVangorToth is offline
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Default Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ... ME

You decide to fire out a bet on that turn and see what happens. While he has acted almost immediately before, this time he takes a moment and simply calls.

Pot: $185 (9.25 BB)

River: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Final board: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Do you bet or check?

If you bet and Barron raises, do you call? 3-bet? fold?

If you check and Barron bets, do you call? raise? fold?

You both know that you're both 2+2'ers.

What do his actions indicate that he has, raising pre-flop, calling your raise, four-betting on the flop, calling your bet on the turn...?

What is the range of hands - and there is your answer.

What do you do?

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Old 08-27-2005, 09:42 AM
Rezman5 Rezman5 is offline
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Check call. I think sometimes this play will be made with the flush draw, and sometimes with the OESD, so I think a call is in order with such a big pot.
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Old 08-27-2005, 09:43 AM
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Bet call since there are alot more hands you're ahead of here that might check behind.
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