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Old 08-04-2005, 04:26 PM
tek tek is offline
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aw come on, we buy enough of your books. Spill the beans. chez

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It was in the book "Will Power and God: Why learning math is important even if your IQ is below 140 and you will never play in the games I play".

The sequel will be entitled "Mid-Life Crisis Management: Why I will always be right when I discuss topics for which there is no proof".
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Old 08-04-2005, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: Will Power

PTB --
"I can will today my Will today, but can I will today my Will tommorrow?"

chezlaw --
"There is only now. "


First there is now
Then there is no now
Then there is


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Old 08-05-2005, 07:38 AM
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Will Power is a much discussed topic in certain 12 Step Recovery Programs and elsewhere I think. Anyway, here's my thought:

I can will today my Will today, but can I will today my Will tommorrow?

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[/ QUOTE ]Ahhhhhhh.

I hear people claiming quantum physics somehow refutes the logic of what seems to be a deterministic universe.

The way I see it, think of any action you can "will yourself to take". Now trace back why you took said action. Did you do it because I asked you to? Because your parents birthed you? Etc.

I think, barring some unknown variable or scientific fact which I cannot comprehend or am not informed of, free will is an illusion. This is because everything is caused by something else, thus you can not do anything truly "free" of everything else.
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Old 08-05-2005, 08:22 AM
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Default Re: Will Power

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PTB --
"I can will today my Will today, but can I will today my Will tommorrow?"

chezlaw --
"There is only now. "


First there is now
Then there is no now
Then there is


PairTheBoard

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there is only now therefore there is no then.

chez
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Old 08-08-2005, 02:40 AM
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Once again I have a chapter about this precise subject. In fact I considered the subject (Will Power) so important, that I REPEATED it in both sections.

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If you repeated it in both sections wouldn't it appear four times? I don't think you repeated it in both sections. (Correct me if I'm wrong it has been a month or two since I've read thebook).
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