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Old 12-22-2005, 07:05 PM
bluef0x bluef0x is offline
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Default Re: Trying to figure out pushing...this one?

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Assuming you haven't pushed before, I would do this if no one had called, so just SB was in the pot.

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Really? I'd say that would be a min-raise or 3xBB raise situation. With just a SB/BB war, you'd have a reasonable (possibly best) start with position for the rest of the hand. The raise puts you in a position to steal an even-bigger pot after the flop in the (extremely frequent) case where the flop missed SB and he checks to you.

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With 7.5BB I'm not looking to give the SB any chance of hitting a flop, I'll more more than happy in taking the blinds and getting my stack to 10.5BB. (This is about the situation where there is no limper and SB completes)

Also- you can't really raise 3xBB with your stack size.
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Old 12-22-2005, 07:14 PM
tewall tewall is offline
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Default Re: Trying to figure out pushing...this one?

The stack's too small for this. I'd do what you said with 12.5 BB. If you raise 3xBB, he'll be getting about 3 to 1 to call the flop.
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Old 12-22-2005, 07:56 PM
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When you push like this you should be doing it for two reasons.

1) The value of your hand
2) The limpers are weak/tight players who are very likely to fold. (PVS)

You indicated neither of these in your post so I am guessing you looked down, saw a few limpers and a medium strength hand and let her rip. You have 8.5xbb, you are not extremely desperate. At lower limits people often times bust themselves so survival is a key concept.

This is FPS, and a leak.

PS. Don't post results, only the fact that you pushed. That is all that matters.

PPS. Don't be afraid to see a flop, your hand does have value although you are OOP.

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Some good points there...

I'm not scared of post-flop play...just trying to explore push-botting....

I think you're right about my FPS kicking in this spot.
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