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Old 12-16-2005, 07:07 PM
ZeroPointMachine ZeroPointMachine is offline
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Default Re: ($22): Hands like these are embarrassing!

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You have less than 4BB and are paying the BB next hand. This makes the true EV of folding much worse than in other positions.

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Actually, the SB was eliminated the hand before this one, so I'm in the SB next hand, this change anything?

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It changes it a little, but not enough to make it a fold.

IMO 4 BB is the critical number. When you have 4 BB your push doesn't quite offer the big blind 2-1 odds to call. I think this has a huge effect on the calling range you can expect. Below 4 BB the big blind will always have 2-1 or better pot odds and if it happens to be a bigger stack you are almost guaranteed a call.

When you are not on the bubble it is critical to make a move before dropping below 4BB if at all possible.
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Old 12-16-2005, 07:51 PM
tigerite tigerite is offline
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Default Re: ($22): Hands like these are embarrassing!

I'd push just about every one of those, certainly the last two would be auto.
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Old 12-16-2005, 07:52 PM
tigerite tigerite is offline
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Default Re: ($22): Hands like these are embarrassing!

Ah wait missed the CO raise on the last one, meh, a fold is probably okay there then.
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Old 12-16-2005, 08:36 PM
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Default Re: ($22): Hands like these are embarrassing!

I don't push here. I wait for at least K high. Someone is probably gonna call and I would rather wait two more hands to try to get a better opportunity.
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Old 12-16-2005, 08:57 PM
RiverDood RiverDood is offline
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I don't push here but later on I wish I had. . I wait for at least K high. When it arrives, to my dismay, I'm no longer first to act. Someone else has limped, raised or pushed before me. All I can do is fold my K7 or join their pot. I wait two more hands , but there's never a better opportunity.

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