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Old 11-03-2005, 08:55 PM
DcifrThs DcifrThs is offline
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Default hand vs. Angelina

for those that dont know Angelina is an excellent shorthanded player. he (im still assuming this), is great and destoys the paradise 40 game. he is also one of those slovenian players (from ljubljana)

im playing with him 5 handed b/c there are 2 great fishies to my right.

the player in between us is too tight for the shorthanded game (and likely because he has Angelina to his left).

folded to me and i open 87ss on the button. angelina calls in the bb after the sb folds.

flop comes down Ad9s2d. angelina check and calls my bet.

turn is a great card for me, 6s. angelina bets out, i raise, he hesitates for a sec and calls my bet.

the river is a 7. angelina checks. your action?

Barron
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Old 11-03-2005, 09:01 PM
Sykes Sykes is offline
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Default Re: hand vs. Angelina

Check behind hoping that pair of 7s with 8 kicker is good?

I really can't see a fold by any hand that beats you.

Also, I think this is why you raised the turn.
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Old 11-03-2005, 09:05 PM
Dominic Dominic is offline
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Default Re: hand vs. Angelina

I like a bet here...it may chase out a 9. Checking behind is a little weak. If he raises you, I think it's safe to fold, as you've been leading the action throughout.

But then, I suck at SH play. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 11-03-2005, 09:14 PM
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Default Re: hand vs. Angelina

seems like a pretty clear check unless you two have been really going at it recently... then you may have a very thin value bet.
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Old 11-03-2005, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: hand vs. Angelina

a bet will not get angelina to lay down a better hand here, because he does call alot of river bets with very little.
i'd check because i would hate to be check raised here
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Old 11-03-2005, 09:29 PM
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Default Re: hand vs. Angelina

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i'd check because i would hate to be check raised here

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this is a stupid reason..
getting checkraised here is ok because youll NEVER have the best hand, and you wont have to show down your ugly hand that you were pounding with.
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Old 11-03-2005, 09:33 PM
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Default Re: hand vs. Angelina

i check this one. I can't see him laying down a 9.
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Old 11-03-2005, 09:36 PM
mikelow mikelow is offline
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Default Re: hand vs. Angelina

perhaps he/she is bisexual [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Have to follow through with this bluff. Showing this hand down is a give-up play.

Maybe you should go to Ljubljana and meet these players. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 11-03-2005, 09:42 PM
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Default Re: hand vs. Angelina

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i'd check because i would hate to be check raised here

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this is a stupid reason..
getting checkraised here is ok because youll NEVER have the best hand, and you wont have to show down your ugly hand that you were pounding with.

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How much short-handed poker have you played with good players? I haven't played a lot, but in my short experience, river bluffs are not unusual.

I like a check, but concede that I may not extract max value in short-handed games. If you do bet, it's for value.

-eric
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Old 11-03-2005, 09:44 PM
Sykes Sykes is offline
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Default Re: hand vs. Angelina

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perhaps he/she is bisexual [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Have to follow through with this bluff. Showing this hand down is a give-up play.

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Maybe so, but is it really a give-up play when the person is never folding an A let alone a 9
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