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Old 08-30-2005, 07:58 PM
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First 15 minutes of Legends $5000 buyin event. UTG + 2 raises to 175 and button calls. I have no reads and don't
recall playing against either player. I have pocket Queens in the small blind. I reraise to T800. UTG + 2 reraises
me another T2000. Button folds. What's my best play?
Comments appreciated. We all start with T10,000 in chips.

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Old 08-30-2005, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: Pocket Queens Legends Event

2k more, or 2k total?

If its 2k more I fold. If its 2k total, I call and check call a flop bet if I have an overpair, otherwise I check fold.
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Old 08-30-2005, 08:08 PM
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I'd fold to the preflop RR unless the set odds were there. This is a very tough spot to be in, and at that point in a slowish tourney I'd try and find a better spot.
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Old 08-30-2005, 08:34 PM
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Default Re: Pocket Queens Legends Event

It's 2k more.
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Old 08-30-2005, 08:38 PM
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Default Re: Pocket Queens Legends Event

It's a very tough spot. I'm still not sure what the best
play is. It's costing me T2000 to win a T1950 pot so I'm getting even money on my call. I don't have set equity.
I'm almost certainly up against AA, KK, or AK. We'll also
include the 10% Harrington bluff factor.

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Old 08-30-2005, 08:49 PM
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Default Re: Pocket Queens Legends Event

Fold then realize that you probably should be flat calling with hands like QQ JJ etc and reraising with 65s and AA.

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Old 08-30-2005, 10:24 PM
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Fold then realize that you probably should be flat calling with hands like QQ JJ etc and reraising with 65s and AA.

-Jason

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This too.
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Old 08-30-2005, 11:06 PM
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Default Re: Pocket Queens Legends Event

That may be very good advice, but ......???

Later on same scenario, same player raises ( he is seemingly
solid), but all fold to me in the small blind. I have pocket Tens. I flat call. Flop comes J J 2. Needless
to say it goes check, check, through the river and my
Ten's beat raisers AQ. I felt after the hand like I left
bread on the table. Nevertheless Ten's are very difficult
to play out of position relatively deep stacked, like I
was at the time.

Bruce
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Old 08-30-2005, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: Pocket Queens Legends Event

I don't see the point in flat calling for 28% of your stack. You are not getting the odds to play for a set. The classic answer is to fold. However, if you push, villain will have to fold anything but AA or KK and some players might fold KK. Also, you don't know if you are up against some LAG or loose Internet fish who doesn't have a standard hand for making a third raise.

Reraising two players is not bad, but you could have flat called OOP with QQ.
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