QQ vs ep limp\reraise

[jon462]

when villain reraised from 70 to 250, I really didnt know what to do. I think he has AA or KK at least 50% of the time here, but ive hands like 99, 44.. and AK make this play so its hard to fold. When the action gets around to me on the flop im positive I have EP raiser beat.. if BB overcalled with A10, que sera..

#Game No : 2597171451
***** Hand History for Game 2597171451 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:15159269 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Thursday, August 25, 19:59:18 EDT 2005
Table Table 11279 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: SCAD1 ( $785 )
Seat 2: gpicasso ( $1205 )
Seat 3: jerometurner ( $800 )
Seat 4: GINO_27 ( $750 )
Seat 5: iam_cdn2 ( $755 )
Seat 6: BUDDYKINGS ( $640 )
Seat 7: Lou_Zar ( $860 )
Seat 8: hobbyboy ( $545 )
Seat 9: Giga_debt ( $770 )
Seat 10: mds52 ( $890 )
Trny:15159269 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Giga_debt [ Qh Qd ]
gpicasso folds.
jerometurner calls [15].
GINO_27 folds.
iam_cdn2 calls [15].
BUDDYKINGS folds.
Lou_Zar folds.
hobbyboy folds.
Giga_debt: anyone else want to take a nap
>You have options at Table 12698 Table!.
Giga_debt raises [75].
mds52 calls [65].
SCAD1 folds.
jerometurner raises [235].
iam_cdn2 folds.
Giga_debt calls [175].
mds52 calls [175].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts, 7c, Th ]
mds52 bets [100].
jerometurner calls [100].
Giga_debt is all-In [520]

[psyduck]

I'd just push all-in preflop. You'd don't really want that 3rd guy in there.

[jon462]

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I'd just push all-in preflop. You'd don't really want that 3rd guy in there.

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i didnt know whether to fold or push.. so i took whats prolly the worse option, call [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

normally the flop isnt going to help me any, unless A, K, or Q comes.. but the action to me was enough to convince me i was ahead.

[bigt439]

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when villain reraised from 70 to 250, I really didnt know what to do. I think he has AA or KK at least 50% of the time here, but ive hands like 99, 44.. and AK make this play so its hard to fold. When the action gets around to me on the flop im positive I have EP raiser beat.. if BB overcalled with A10, que sera..

#Game No : 2597171451
***** Hand History for Game 2597171451 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:15159269 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Thursday, August 25, 19:59:18 EDT 2005
Table Table 11279 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: SCAD1 ( $785 )
Seat 2: gpicasso ( $1205 )
Seat 3: jerometurner ( $800 )
Seat 4: GINO_27 ( $750 )
Seat 5: iam_cdn2 ( $755 )
Seat 6: BUDDYKINGS ( $640 )
Seat 7: Lou_Zar ( $860 )
Seat 8: hobbyboy ( $545 )
Seat 9: Giga_debt ( $770 )
Seat 10: mds52 ( $890 )
Trny:15159269 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Giga_debt [ Qh Qd ]
gpicasso folds.
jerometurner calls [15].
GINO_27 folds.
iam_cdn2 calls [15].
BUDDYKINGS folds.
Lou_Zar folds.
hobbyboy folds.
Giga_debt: anyone else want to take a nap
>You have options at Table 12698 Table!.
Giga_debt raises [75].
mds52 calls [65].
SCAD1 folds.
jerometurner raises [235].
iam_cdn2 folds.
Giga_debt calls [175].
mds52 calls [175].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts, 7c, Th ]
mds52 bets [100].
jerometurner calls [100].
Giga_debt is all-In [520]

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I fold preflop. Limp reraises suck, especially against QQ. You're beat more than 50% of the time in my opinion, and if you're not he usually has AK so you're not sacrificing a huge amount of equity. I don't know, I thought you were beat from the start so I'd hate to raise and folding seems dumb for only t100 so I guess I'd probably call and re-evaluat on the turn. But I think you end up folding the turn so much maybe you should just fold the flop. Raising all-in seems dumb. Just fold preflop, or if you must, push, but I think that's horrible too.

[johnnybeef]

Johnny likee

[psyduck]

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I fold preflop. Limp reraises suck, especially against QQ. You're beat more than 50% of the time in my opinion, and if you're not he usually has AK so you're not sacrificing a huge amount of equity. I don't know, I thought you were beat from the start so I'd hate to raise and folding seems dumb for only t100 so I guess I'd probably call and re-evaluat on the turn. But I think you end up folding the turn so much maybe you should just fold the flop. Raising all-in seems dumb. Just fold preflop, or if you must, push, but I think that's horrible too.

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This might be true at a higher limit, like a $215 or a step 5, but at these limits, a LRR might be 88 as well as KK or AA.

[Oluwafemi]

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Giga_debt raises [75].
mds52 calls [65].
SCAD1 folds.
jerometurner raises [235].
iam_cdn2 folds.
Giga_debt pushes all-in. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


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this is a clear push all-in with this much money [in proportion to your stack] preflop. unless i possess x-ray vision and can see Aces or Kings, i'm pushing my old ladies off the cliff.

[jon462]

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Johnny likee

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that settles it, I musta misplayed it [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]