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Old 06-27-2005, 02:59 PM
tylerdurden tylerdurden is offline
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Default AA, villian pushes

Button is 22.4 VP$IP, 1.7 PFR, not very aggressive

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (9 handed) converter

UTG+1 ($74.15)
MP1 ($46.5)
MP2 ($14.05)
MP3 ($50.65)
CO ($48.01)
Button ($51.55)
SB ($48.15)
Hero ($55.75)
UTG ($29.05)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.5. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, UTG+1 calls $2.50, MP3 calls $2, Button calls $2.

Flop: ($12.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $15</font>, Button calls $48.55 (All-In), Hero ???

Is there any way the button does not have a set here? I can't see just smoothcalling MP3's preflop minraise with any overpair.

And what about MP3? If I call this, I have to worry about going up against two people? It seems pretty likely that one of these two has me beat here.
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Old 06-27-2005, 03:09 PM
Nathan183 Nathan183 is offline
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Default Re: AA, villian pushes

Raise more preflop.

With this many people seeing the flop, given the action, I think I fold here.
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Old 06-27-2005, 03:48 PM
djoyce003 djoyce003 is offline
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Default Re: AA, villian pushes

you made a weakass flop bet.....so they might be trying to take this away from you...if you lead for $12 i wonder how the complexion of this hand changes. That aside, you've been raised, and reraised all in. Unless they have 10 10 and JJ, you are behind to a set. Button is not playing anything that makes 2 pair on this board so his range of hands is 10 10 - AA (although AA not likely given your hand), 22, 77 or 99. MP3 could actually have just a 9, maybe A9 suited, or 910 suited and he's just an idiot, you didn't post a read on him. It seems like a really wierd way to play a set, but it's probably the most likely hand. I think you are in second place here. If it was just you against button i'd consider calling as this could easily be a really overplayed pair of jacks, but you've also got to worry about mp3....the more I think about this though, the more I think you might be ahead. You are getting almost 2-1 on your money.
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Old 06-27-2005, 04:00 PM
RedRum RedRum is offline
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Default Re: AA, villian pushes

I think you're ahead enough to call this. I can't see a set more than 1/2 the time, and with 2:1 ...

I'd really expect a/9 clubs trying to bite off the pot or another overpair much more likely than the set.

We'd know more if your raise PF was more and/or the flop bet was more. I like $4 or 5 PF and pot the flop on this to better define it.

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Old 06-27-2005, 04:23 PM
MoDOH MoDOH is offline
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Default Re: AA, villian pushes

Fold and I think itīs not even close...

Although I agree with the other posters that you need to make a bigger preflopraise and that you also need to pot the flop here. But as far as the flop you are beat here 95 times out of a hundred...

your only hope i that BOTH MP3 and button is making a move on you here with something less than your pair of aces...

In my book this is a really easy fold...
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Old 06-27-2005, 10:00 PM
tylerdurden tylerdurden is offline
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Default Re: AA, villian pushes

I pushed (had button slightly covered), MP3 folded.

Button had 99, as I figured out while I waited for MP3 to act. I sucked out an A on the river, though. This hand kept me up for a while, I was really pissed because I dragged the pot and didn't get that immediate negative feedback that I should have gotten for calling an all-in with the worst hand.

I seem to run into this situation a lot, overpair vs. flopped set, and I have a hard time getting away from it. Working on it, though.
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