I get one right?

[surfdoc]

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I actually quit raising A anthing from the CO 6 handed, but thats just cuz I suck with them postflop.


I like the turn, but I think betting may be better, he will call you down with any PP, and there is only 1 combo of AA to fear. I think hes less likely to have a KJ type hand than normal since he 3 bet your CO steal, not button steal. But I think it all hinges on how he would actually play a PP, if he would bet the turn with it, then I check

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The converter messed up. It was actually 5 handed. Not that that matters much.

[NLSoldier]

I like it.

[Lmn55d]

Whoa, I Would bet the turn for sure. A lot of guys with TAG stats in this game play v. badly. He will often pay you off with a lower pocket pair and just doesn't want to get raised and put to a tough decision. If he has KJ, checking is only going to help you if he pairs up on the river. THere is more value in getting him to call you down with a lower pocket pair.

I guess there's an argument that he has 66 or the like and will check/fold the turn but would check/call the river if you checked the turn. But if he's good and he knows you're good he probably should check/fold the river even if you check the turn.

If you know he would never check a lower pocket pair here on the turn, intending to call, then by all means check it. If he doesn't know you're a good TAG, and instead for some reason thinks you're an aggro lag (not that unlikely), I could see him checking to get to showdown cheap.

[Lmn55d]

one more thing. I think a lot of TAGs in this game are very fearful of being exploited here by another tag who calls the flop without an ace looking to knock hero off of his pocket pair. TAGs know and fear this, and thus I think it is pretty rare that one folds a pocket pair here.

[spamuell]

You might as well bet. He's probably got a worse hand whether it's a pair or K-high and has decided either he's going to pay off one bet on either the turn or river but if you bet both then fold the river, or that he's going to call down. As you don't know which, just bet and hope it's the latter so you can collect 2 bets instead of one.

I don't think it's worth checking the turn to induce a river call as I doubt you're going to collect a call on the river from a hand that would have folded if you'd bet the turn very often at all because he's going to be suspicious and expect you to bet the turn a lot of the time so he's unlikely to just check-fold it.

[DeathDonkey]

I like the check. If he is good you will have a hard time getting a bet either way, but more chance this way. I'm shocked so many decent players in this thread would call down with any pocket pair here. If you have KQ for example that's about the worst flop in the world for you and peeling would be pretty dumb.

-DeathDonkey

[Lmn55d]

if you could peel one sb with KQ, knowing that your tag opponent will fold any pocket pair, wouldn't it be worth it? I'm not saying it's correct to peel this flop, but this is something to think about. Checkraising the turn with big aces can counter this. I have a strong suspicion, however, that a lot of TAGs in this game feel they must call down to counter it.

[surfdoc]

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if you could peel one sb with KQ, knowing that your tag opponent will fold any pocket pair, wouldn't it be worth it? I'm not saying it's correct to peel this flop, but this is something to think about. Checkraising the turn with big aces can counter this. I have a strong suspicion, however, that a lot of TAGs in this game feel they must call down to counter it.

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If he has a big Ace and the turn does not put 3 on board wouldn't you agree that a CR is by far and away his best play?

[Lmn55d]

no, i would bet the turn and checkraise the river

[flawless_victory]

PF raise is too loose and i hate that turn check in this game... i am positive he is calling u down w/ JJ, you are missing out on free money here.