Seed vs. MM vs. VArkonyi vs. MCEvoy

[sdplayerb]

yep.
Heck Chan won 12 coin flips one the years he won it.
Ferguson sucked out to win his.
Ungar sucked out to win his final one.
Hellmuth had a ridiculous amount of pocket aces when he won it.

They are all incredible players.
It is just one tournament.
Moneymaker even said he has a ton to learn.

[Gamblor]

Most of the big tourney winners haven't read any of those and what the hell good would it do you to read HPFAP since it's a NO LIMIT tourney?

You can't be implying that the new generation of big tourney winners (i.e. NOT Brunson, Cloutier, etc. etc) don't also play limit hold 'em or did at one point in their careers. But even then, they might have read some other 2+2 book.q

Am I overestimating 2+2 market penetration?

[Gamblor]

Just to clarify for me, is what you mean that Moneymaker won the WSOP without a rudimentary knowledge of the fundamentals i.e. knowing even basic hold 'em calculations?

Such as knowing a flush draw is 2.8:1 against? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]