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Old 05-15-2005, 10:31 PM
Chiron Chiron is offline
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Default Re: 55, the bubble, a shortstack, and me

Wow, I totally misread the hand. My bad... I thought YOU had 200 chips and had just posted 200.

I'd probably let UTG do his thing here, but what do I know.
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Old 05-15-2005, 11:03 PM
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Default Re: 55, the bubble, a shortstack, and me

This is a nice push.
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Old 05-15-2005, 11:37 PM
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Default Re: 55, the bubble, a shortstack, and me

Fold. Make the money. Then, next time you get 55, push.
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Old 05-15-2005, 11:45 PM
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Default Re: 55, the bubble, a shortstack, and me

I probably money either way. I have UTG covered by a K, and even if I lose Smally has only a BB left if he folds. If I win I've pretty much got 2nd locked up with a nice shot of winning it. I also likely have the best hand if I'm called, regardless of how slim that edge. Still fold?
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Old 05-16-2005, 02:11 AM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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Default Re: 55, the bubble, a shortstack, and me

If the BB is loose, he will almost always call making a push the right play. If UTG is a weak tight player he will probably fold this making pushing the right play. Pushing this when there is a good chance that the SB folds and UTG calls is very bad. Basically, this is one of those few hands that will actually be very read dependent. With no reads, I would fold and get ITM
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Old 05-16-2005, 02:15 AM
Nick M Nick M is offline
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Default Re: 55, the bubble, a shortstack, and me

ahhhhhhhh instamuck...weak bubble play is bad, but anything but folding here would be just retarded.
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Old 05-16-2005, 02:23 AM
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Default Re: 55, the bubble, a shortstack, and me

real easy push, BB is huge for you, screw the icm also if you win you are guaranteed second if you lose the BB is still veryyy short so you arent in real danger of missing the money- with the fold equity and fact your hand is usually best this is an easy push.
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Old 05-16-2005, 02:24 AM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Default Re: 55, the bubble, a shortstack, and me

What a great scenario to discuss. Your only read on UTG is that he has raised half his stack pf multiple times, but has never been pushed over (right?).

There's only one real question to consider....

What's your read on BB? Is he a thinking player? Is there any chance he'll fold? If you think you've got a greater than 50/50 chance he'll fold, I'd push this hand.
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Old 05-16-2005, 02:40 AM
Losing all Losing all is offline
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Default Re: 55, the bubble, a shortstack, and me

50/50? even donks will fold most hands here and pray. It is a very interesting hand though. I'm pretty sure this is an autopush for the "1st or 4th" cowboys among us. Tougher call for the "make the money first" crowd. It's so close for me (sans reads) that it would probably depend on my mood. I can't see it being too wrong either way.
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Old 05-16-2005, 03:16 AM
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Default Re: 55, the bubble, a shortstack, and me

don't look at your cards and push.
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