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Old 08-29-2004, 12:13 PM
Tharpab Tharpab is offline
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Default Top set with JJ, where I misplayed?

Game #577169509 - (blinds $0.01/$0.02) No Limit Texas Hold'em - 2004/08/29-08:35:36 (CST)
Table "Canary Islands" (real money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: LastBander ($1.89 in chips)
Seat 2: dekcek ($1.60 in chips)
Seat 3: kev77log ($3.76 in chips)
Seat 4: 2073600 ($2.10 in chips)
Seat 5: Maya357 ($1.30 in chips)
Seat 6: tim dog ($2.60 in chips)
Seat 7: ReachMoon ($4.21 in chips)
Seat 9: AbigslickK ($1.96 in chips)
Seat 10: thunderhawk9 ($6.65 in chips)
kev77log: Post Small Blind ($0.01)
2073600 : Post Big Blind ($0.02)
Dealing...
Dealt to ReachMoon [ Jh ]
Dealt to ReachMoon [ Jd ]
Maya357 : Fold
tim dog : Fold
ReachMoon: Call ($0.02)
AbigslickK: Fold
thunderhawk9: Call ($0.02)
LastBander: Call ($0.02)
dekcek : Call ($0.02)
kev77log: Call ($0.01)
2073600 : Check
*** FLOP *** : [ 4d Js Td ]
kev77log: Check
2073600 : Check
ReachMoon: Check

I had bet experience with betting and everybody folding, so I wanted to an ace to land so I could get some action

thunderhawk9: Check
LastBander: Check
dekcek : Check
*** TURN *** : [ 4d Js Td ] [ Ah ]
kev77log: Check
2073600 : Fold
ReachMoon: Check
I knew there will be bets, so I will going for check raise

thunderhawk9: Check
LastBander: Check
dekcek : Bet ($0.16)
kev77log: Call ($0.16)
ReachMoon: Raise ($1)
thunderhawk9: Fold
LastBander: Raise ($1.87) All-in
dekcek : Fold
kev77log: Fold
ReachMoon: Call ($0.87)
*** RIVER *** : [ 4d Js Td Ah ] [ Kh ]
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $3.98 | Rake: $0.20
Board: [ 4d Js Td Ah Kh ]
LastBander bet $1.89, collected $3.98, net +$2.09 (showed hand) [ Kc Qd ] (a straight, ten to ace)
dekcek lost $0.18 (folded)
kev77log lost $0.18 (folded)
2073600 lost $0.02 (folded)
Maya357 didn't bet (folded)
tim dog didn't bet (folded)
ReachMoon lost $1.89 (showed hand) [ Jh Jd ] (three of a kind, jacks)
BrettF didn't bet
AbigslickK didn't bet (folded)
thunderhawk9 lost $0.02 (folded)
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Is this standard?I really thought I was going to see AK, AQ, or two pair, when I should have betted?
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Old 08-29-2004, 01:28 PM
makk makk is offline
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Default Re: Top set with JJ, where I misplayed?

When you got reraised on the turn you could be quite certain that he had a straight and you have only 10 outs to outdraw him. I don't think he would reraised you with an inside staight draw (AK or AQ) fearing that you or someone else has a made hand.

First of all I would raise pre-flop since pocket pairs loose value in multi-way pots. On the turn I would probably bet a fair amount to see where I stand (we dont like an ace on the turn since it might complete a straight) and if I would get reraised big time I would probably lay down my hand.
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Old 08-29-2004, 01:42 PM
bunky9590 bunky9590 is offline
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Default Re: Top set with JJ, where I misplayed?

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pocket pairs loose value in multi-way pots

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Please tell me youre not freaking serious!!!
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Old 08-29-2004, 01:46 PM
bunky9590 bunky9590 is offline
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Default Re: Top set with JJ, where I misplayed?

Raise a nominal amount PF. 4-5X the BB is fine. Flop big bet is necessary. Thats a draw infested board. Bet at least the pot. Once the ace hits the turn its shutdown time if called. Try to see the river cheap bacause one of the likey draws got there.

Never, ever check that flop. unless you feel strongly someone is going to bet so you can push all in right there.
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