Can I call a river bet with T-high?

[mscags]

This is an easy fold IMHO, even if he is bluffing, he needs to be bluffing absolute crap for your hand to be good. Wait until you have something a little higher.

[NLfool]

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10/20 3-handed. I haven't played much with this guy, but he has been playing decent so far.

Button folds, I raise T7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and he calls in the BB.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
I bet, he calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
I check, he checks.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
I check, he bets. I call?

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geez is this like an Ungar or Kiril moment. T high and people are actually considering calling it? I'm beginning to think no one around here gives anyone credit for top pair or even a pair (not that I believe that may/or may not be the case). I'd think T high has a better chance on a QQJJx board. But I'd really hate for some clown to pull an Ellix Powers and laugh at me for what really is a stupid call.

[Victor]

results pls.

[kurosh]

He had K7o and I looked like a moron, but I still think it's +EV.

This is a badcall for the following reasons:
Cards you lose to:
Ace, duece, trey, 4, k, a, q, j, (any other pp)

Any combination of these cards make up how many hands? A lot. 9/13 types of cards beat you. The pot is miniscule. The chance that between both of his hole cards he has none of the above cards is small.

[I am fish]

I don't think he has no pair and below a T high more than 25% of the time.

[NLSoldier]

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This is a badcall for the following reasons:
Cards you lose to:
Ace, duece, trey, 4, k, a, q, j, (any other pp)

Any combination of these cards make up how many hands? A lot. 9/13 types of cards beat you. The pot is miniscule. The chance that between both of his hole cards he has none of the above cards is small.

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this is a terrible way of looking at it. Villian absolutely does not have a 2,3, 4 or PP here,(because he didnt raise flop or bet turn) and does not have ace high either, because he didnt 3bet preflop (so he cant have a good ace high, and he wont value bet the river with a bad ace high.)

He also very likely does not have queen high, because he *knows* ace high isnt folding and jack high isnt calling.

so take out the hands with an ace, 2, 3, 4, Q, and you are left with the times he has a King or jack.

Now its much closer.

[Petteri]

Calling is awful play, what do you think you can beat? If you know your opponent is habitual bluffer, you can consider raising. He most probably does not have an ace, so he needs a pair to call.

Against typical opponent this is fold.

Why did you not bet turn? You need to follow-through.

Hell no you cant call....So what if he won that hand your losing the blinds plus one raise?

I agreee witht the raise on the river to represent the strong hand you posed with the raise pre flop