Pair and good draw vs LAG and tilty small stack

We already decided that he should have raised pre-flop, as was stated toward the end of the original post.

[Alex/Mugaaz]

Limping with a suited ace after 1 limper isn't the end of the world. I don't think it matter much at all.

I'll take it to the river now. Flop raise seems solid, which is what Hero did, after which it still gets a little tricky:

flop J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

BB bets, UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, BB caps, UTG all-in, Hero calls

turn J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]; BB bets, Hero calls, 9+bb's

river 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], for final board of:

J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9.2ish bb's

BB checks to Hero. Is this a clear check down? Side pot is like 3bb.

[Piiop]

Easy river check.

Yeah, I thought easy river check too, but for some reason by buddy bets and gets raised by BB. What is going on here?

[Piiop]

Thats what he gets for betting.

[shant]

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Yeah, I thought easy river check too, but for some reason by buddy bets and gets raised by BB. What is going on here?

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Your buddy has already put in too many bets, and now the BB has just basically bent your friend over?

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Yeah, I thought easy river check too, but for some reason by buddy bets and gets raised by BB. What is going on here?

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Your buddy has already put in too many bets, and now the BB has just basically bent your friend over?

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Exactly, so my buddy wants to crawl away and die and folds only to be shown 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] by BB (complete miss) and K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] by UTG. Crazy BB check-raise bluffs on complete wiff for small side pot. Is he completely insane? Who does this?

[cassady]

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A gambling LAG is not folding a better hand even if you offered to go all-in. Live players hate folding because after the hand they'd have to whine about what they folded and shake their head for the next 20 hands and complain about what a bad dealer this is.

Also, even crap LAGs can tell when you're taking advantage of the guy with eight dollars left and will call with middle-pair-four-kicker because they hate you and their own life.

I'd call because of the reasons Piiop stated.

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so what's your line for the rest of the hand?

Improved: check/raise turn and go to war.
Unimproved: check/call turn, bet/fold or bet/call river, depending on how truely LAGy our LAG is?.

[shant]

We're in position. I think it's a pretty simple call on the turn, and fold on the river without improving.