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Re: Houston Rockets are going to the finals, you can put money on it.
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Holy crap! 7 point favorites??? In November??? What the hell was I thinking??? Tell me Houston is at home, too! Wait ... what's that ... it's also the second of a back-to-back for Sacramento? Wow! PS how could the Steelers only win by 1 last night? The books had them as 13 point favorites! Fool. [/ QUOTE ] The main difference between me and you is that you're a pompous douche who knows nothing about sports and I make a living betting on it. If the Kings are slightly better than the Rockets as you say, the line should be Rockets -1. I'll wager any amount up to $5k on the Rockets at that line if you're willing to book it. Thoughts? |
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Re: Houston Rockets are going to the finals, you can put money on it.
You obviously know nothing about lines, especially opening night NBA lines.
Even if the Kings were 'slightly' better, the line would still be -5 or 6 Rockets. The Rockets would be at -3 over the Spurs if they met in game one. Brad |
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A pretty silly thread here if you ask me. Two Houston homers trying to talk biased smack about their team... ...Houston Rockets. The team did start to mesh last year, but they still have holes. Juwan Howard/Stromile Swift isn't sn entirely impressive PF tandem. SG is also an issue with David Wesely/Derek Anderson sharing time. Sura is a workhorse, and proved his worth down the stretch last season. Maybe the 3rd best team behind the Spurs/Mavs, but maybe the 4th. [/ QUOTE ] Thanks for your informed opinion about the Rockets. You obviously have a firm grasp on things. 1-Bob Sura isn't the starting PG Alston is. 2- The team didn't magically "mesh" last year. They acquired much better personell than they had before and went 36-16 from January on. To that team that won at a 69% clip they added 2 players Derek Anderson, Rafer Alston, who are good enough to start ahead of last year's players. And a third Stomile Swift who is splitting time and will be starting by season's end. They improved every position besides T-Mac and Yao Ming. 3-"Juwan Howard/Stromile Swift isn't sn entirely impressive PF tandem" It sure as hell is more impressive than Juwan Howard/Ryan Bowen. I'd say they improved significantly. No way I would bet Houston to win the West at 10-1. Spurs are too good and there are other tough teams to beat. But like the one guy said, the people real off on this thread are the ones arguing against logic and Vegas. And as I said above, since this is a gambling website and hopefully we like to gamble and have expendable cash around. Someone please take me up on the rediculous predictions for the Rockets. |
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Your opinions are not unreasonable. My personal feeling is that you are ignoring some obvious considerations, such as the fact that Stromile Swift has yet to shed his "potential" label in his 5 years in the league. Could he this year, with Van Gundy? Sure. Suffice it to say that, in my opinion, a lot -- a whole lot -- has to go right this year for Houston to win the West, which is the opinion that started this thread. But one cannot reasonably say that they are not in the mix of 6 or 7 teams that could come out of the conference.
But you are right for sure that we should look at this in terms of a wager. I see that Houston is +700 to win the West on Olympic. I think that's way too low to consider a wager (and you seem to agree with that). I would take Dallas at +1000 if I was looking for a wager with some value in the west. |
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Re: Houston Rockets are going to the finals, you can put money on it.
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Your opinions are not unreasonable. My personal feeling is that you are ignoring some obvious considerations, such as the fact that Stromile Swift has yet to shed his "potential" label in his 5 years in the league. Could he this year, with Van Gundy? Sure. Suffice it to say that, in my opinion, a lot -- a whole lot -- has to go right this year for Houston to win the West, which is the opinion that started this thread. But one cannot reasonably say that they are not in the mix of 6 or 7 teams that could come out of the conference. But you are right for sure that we should look at this in terms of a wager. I see that Houston is +700 to win the West on Olympic. I think that's way too low to consider a wager (and you seem to agree with that). I would take Dallas at +1000 if I was looking for a wager with some value in the west. [/ QUOTE ] I too think Dallas is an undervalued squad in the West. |
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Heads up: CRIS has Dallas at +1400 to win the West. I think that may be a fair price if you have high expectations for Dallas, but in the end you are still going to be left with a pretty crappy bet of Dallas against San Antonio, which isn't going to be fun to hedge with San Antonio's heavy price (if you even get it in the Finals). I think your better off just playing the season total. The risk you run there is if say Dirk goes down for a stretch but is back for the playoffs, then you'd rather have the championship bet.
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Re: Houston Rockets are going to the finals, you can put money on it.
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Heads up: CRIS has Dallas at +1400 to win the West. I think that may be a fair price if you have high expectations for Dallas, but in the end you are still going to be left with a pretty crappy bet of Dallas against San Antonio, which isn't going to be fun to hedge with San Antonio's heavy price (if you even get it in the Finals). I think your better off just playing the season total. The risk you run there is if say Dirk goes down for a stretch but is back for the playoffs, then you'd rather have the championship bet. [/ QUOTE ] It was just a thought, I'm not going to play it. Thanks for the tip. |
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You obviously know nothing about lines, especially opening night NBA lines. Even if the Kings were 'slightly' better, the line would still be -5 or 6 Rockets. The Rockets would be at -3 over the Spurs if they met in game one. Brad [/ QUOTE ] Wrong. If you have two teams of equal strength playing one another, the home team will be about -3. On neutral site, they will be pk. Therefore, if the Rockets are equal to the Kings in strength, they will be -3. If they are slightly worse, they will be -1 or -2. If they are clearly worse, the Kings would be a road favorite. By the way, 'opening night' lines are no different than lines available the rest of the year. What an ignorant statement. Please keep quiet and let the real professionals do the talking. |
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Re: Houston Rockets are going to the finals, you can put money on it.
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[ QUOTE ] Holy crap! 7 point favorites??? In November??? What the hell was I thinking??? Tell me Houston is at home, too! Wait ... what's that ... it's also the second of a back-to-back for Sacramento? Wow! PS how could the Steelers only win by 1 last night? The books had them as 13 point favorites! Fool. [/ QUOTE ] The main difference between me and you is that you're a pompous douche who knows nothing about sports and I make a living betting on it. If the Kings are slightly better than the Rockets as you say, the line should be Rockets -1. I'll wager any amount up to $5k on the Rockets at that line if you're willing to book it. Thoughts? [/ QUOTE ] My thoughts are that, based on your highly intelligent posts, the chances are good that (1) I will never see the $5000, (2) the money will be counterfeit, or (3) you would pay me over many years, in rolls of nickels. So, I will respectfully decline your most generous offer, although I am sure my decision not to take a bet from some anonymous teenager whose posts demonstrate that he would have difficulty even counting to 5,000 will be met with the response that I am a "pussy". Such are the trials and tribulations of being a pompous douche. |
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My thoughts are that, based on your highly intelligent posts, the chances are good that (1) I will never see the $5000, (2) the money will be counterfeit, or (3) you would pay me over many years, in rolls of nickels. So, I will respectfully decline your most generous offer, although I am sure my decision not to take a bet from some anonymous teenager whose posts demonstrate that he would have difficulty even counting to 5,000 will be met with the response that I am a "pussy". Such are the trials and tribulations of being a pompous douche. [/ QUOTE ] There are several people on this site that can vouch for me on this. Or if you don't believe me, find a respected third party that can hold both of our money in escrow. You name the betting amount but I'll take up to 5k in action on the Rockets -1. |
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