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#132
10-24-2005, 12:57 PM
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Re: Circumcise my baby boy?
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[ QUOTE ] On the other hand men who are uncircumsized are much much more likely to contract HIV. Would provide link but I have to study..... [/ QUOTE ] link [/ QUOTE ] Circumcision can't prevent HIV Circumcision and HIV Circumcised men are at greater risk for HIV infection However, this whole "circumcision vs. HIV" debate is moot anyway (or should be). Use a condom. 
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#133
10-24-2005, 01:09 PM
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Re: Circumcise my baby boy?
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On the other hand men who are uncircumsized are much much more likely to contract HIV. Would provide link but I have to study..... [/ QUOTE ] I sometimes wonder about this sort of study (although I haven't read the link). IOW, is the population of uncircumsized people more likely to contact HIV for reasons totally unrelated to circumsicion? I do believe this is true with second hand smoke i.e., if married to a smoker you are far more likely to have a lower income and being poor is a huge indicator of reduced life span. [ QUOTE ] Still, I'm starting to wish I didn't get the "snip". [/ QUOTE ] When Dr. Adell said I could have been even better in bed I started thinking this too [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [ QUOTE ] DAMN YOU RICK NEBIOLO! [/ QUOTE ] What did I do? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [ QUOTE ] EDIT: I'd like to see that paper as I know there are plenty of bad ones out there. I'm not familiar with that journal. I'll have to ask my sister since she's a MD. [/ QUOTE ] I think I had a bad one but I'd rather not elaborate. That said, I've heard that specialists (e.g., those who typically perform them on Jewish people) are really expert. ~ Rick
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#134
10-24-2005, 01:19 PM
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Re: POV from somebody that\'s performed circumcisions
Of course people shouldn't agree with his every opinion. That doesn't mean that his isn't valuable (and possibly regarded as extremely valuable by some).
I don't think he switched anything mid-stream. I think his point about the phimosis is that while it's not a huge deal by any means, it could be a tie-breaking issue (and would be for him personally) in the choice. His main point seems to be (to me) that there isn't any need to go either way medically. As for the social aspect of it, it seems very strange to me that you are arguing the point so adamantly. It seems fairly obvious to me that while it's likely not a big deal by any means, American society certainly is more used to (if not favors) men who have had circumcision (which isn't necessarily a good thing). And btw, saying Irie is as 'out of his depth' in social matters as you are in medical matters makes no sense to me. Are you a Sociologist who is familiar with studies on this issue? I dunno, I certainly don't think there is a correct answer to this question, but knowledge and opinions from someone who has discussed this issue with hundreds of individuals/couples, read literature pertaining to the topic and has performed hundreds of circumcisions would be welcome I'd assume. Yugoslav
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#137
10-24-2005, 02:08 PM
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Re: Circumcise my baby boy?
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i think its a bad thing for little guy to be different than dad. [/ QUOTE ] Haven't read the whole thread, but this seems like the reason I hear a lot in this argument, and I have always thought it was a very casual reason to mutilate a child's genitals.
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#138
10-24-2005, 02:15 PM
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Re: Circumcise my baby boy?
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Why would anyone choose to do it later in life? Outside of getting it done for medical reasons.I have never heard of someone getting it done but I'm sure it happens. If so why? [/ QUOTE ] Oddd, I had a friend who was uncircumsized, but decided to get it at age 19... ... It's his choice... he had no medical reasonign to do it... People do it...
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#139
10-24-2005, 02:25 PM
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Re: POV from somebody that\'s performed circumcisions
Irie - Thanks for your expert opinion.
Are you seeing an increase in the percentage of parents who are choosing to not circumcise their boys? Or can we assume that when our child is grown, there will be the same ratio of circumcised/uncircumsised males?
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#140
10-24-2005, 02:28 PM
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Re: Circumcise my baby boy?
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Find a reference that shows pictures, if possible, so you can see what would actually be done to your son. Anesthetic is not always used. If you do not circumcise your son, and he decides, later in life, that he really does not like it, he can always have it done later if he decides that it's worth it. But it will be HIS decision. [/ QUOTE ] Let's remember that the infant will not remember the pain. Have the procedure later in life and that is PAIN (and no sex) for at least a week.
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