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Old 11-01-2005, 01:19 AM
pergesu pergesu is offline
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Default $22 - Donkeys always draw

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG (t950)
UTG+1 (t725)
UTG+2 (t710)
MP1 (t955)
MP2 (t885)
MP3 (t205)
CO (t455)
Button (t1355)
Hero (t785)
BB (t975)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t15, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, CO calls t15, Button calls t15, Hero completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t45</font>, UTG calls t30, CO calls t30, Button calls t30, Hero calls t30.

Flop: (t222.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t100</font>, UTG calls t100, CO folds, Button calls t100, Hero calls t100.

Turn: (t622.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t150</font>, Hero ??

On this flop I'm getting 5.2-1 on the call, I close the action, and I figure implied oddes are decent.

On the turn, the price is much better, but the threat of a check-raise exists, though it might be small. I would hate to call this and be raised.
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Old 11-01-2005, 01:34 AM
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Default Re: $22 - Donkeys always draw

Also consider that with that many callers, it's possible that you're not the only one drawing. If someone is drawing to clubs, then 2 of your outs are gone. I don't know what the right play is.
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Old 11-01-2005, 01:37 AM
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Default Re: $22 - Donkeys always draw

yeesh, i think i just fold here, especially given the (potential) reverse implied odds of a 8c or 3c. also given the effect on my stack size when i just miss.

weird spot though. you just want to tell the guy to either bet more or less and quit f'ing with your head.
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Old 11-01-2005, 02:02 AM
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Default Re: $22 - Donkeys always draw

I pass as I probably only have 6 outs an' I'm not closing the action.
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Old 11-01-2005, 03:29 AM
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Default Re: $22 - Donkeys always draw

anyone else fold this preflop? if not, anyone else fold to the flop bet? Right now thats what I would do instantly, is this a leak? a serious leak?

Dan
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Old 11-01-2005, 04:36 AM
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Default Re: $22 - Donkeys always draw

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anyone else fold this preflop? if not, anyone else fold to the flop bet? Right now thats what I would do instantly, is this a leak? a serious leak?

Dan

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Im sure I would fold pf after the raise, and I would prob fold the flop as well but I am weak tight
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Old 11-01-2005, 05:19 AM
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Default Re: $22 - Donkeys always draw

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I pass as I probably only have 6 outs an' I'm not closing the action.

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.. and it's too much of my stack to get into a pissing contest.
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Old 11-01-2005, 06:25 AM
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Default Re: $22 - Donkeys always draw

I fold preflop. I'd fold on the flop too.
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Old 11-01-2005, 06:25 AM
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Default Re: $22 - Donkeys always draw

I would complete for 5, but might well fold to the raise.
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Old 11-01-2005, 06:28 AM
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Default Re: $22 - Donkeys always draw

Easy preflop fold.
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