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10-09-2005, 01:36 AM
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My take on the \'dump the skins fiasco\'
I do not receive any rakeback (probably like an idiot), don't play much on the party skins and don't really like the party skins overall. I do think this is a very serious time for party and the many players and friends here on 2+2. Party's decision will probably send a few pro's back to regular jobs and may cost the firm alot of profit and customers.
I have deleted several rakeback posts and considered banning a couple of regular posters. I have let alot of questionable discussions carry on and also did not delete the damage control $$ added tourney by Mike O'Malley. Mike has been a valuable poster here and carries our ideas back to Party management. He is trying to do his job AND help us poker players in general. Thank you, Jim Kuhn Catfish4u [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 
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#2
10-09-2005, 01:44 AM
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Re: My take on the \'dump the skins fiasco\'
Jim, The skins have tightened up considerably, and after cashouts are processed some skins if not all could become graveyards at times like Bodog.
Party did the 'smart' thing, and now they have a monopoly, and have increased their profits hugely, especially since all the mutlitablers now can still do their thing minus the forbidden word. Mike may be a walking "press release", but I doubt our feelings even if they did go back to Party will make changes. Party wins, flawless victory. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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#3
10-09-2005, 01:48 AM
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Re: My take on the \'dump the skins fiasco\'
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Party did the 'smart' thing, and now they have a monopoly, and have increased their profits hugely, especially since all the mutlitablers now can still do their thing minus the forbidden word. [/ QUOTE ] this is all very not true. monopoly?????
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#4
10-09-2005, 01:51 AM
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Re: My take on the \'dump the skins fiasco\'
Party in one week may go from the largest poker site on the internet to the fourth or fifth. This could pave the way for other large sites to really increase market share. The impact on many pro's that are rakeback dependent multi-tablers could be devestating.
Thank you, Jim Kuhn Catfish4u [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
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#5
10-09-2005, 02:01 AM
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Re: My take on the \'dump the skins fiasco\'
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Party in one week may go from the largest poker site on the internet to the fourth or fifth. This could pave the way for other large sites to really increase market share. The impact on many pro's that are rakeback dependent multi-tablers could be devestating. Thank you, Jim Kuhn Catfish4u [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] The sharks will go where the fish are, and the fish will go where the advertisements lead them, and Party outmarkets any other site. While you may be right, and many 'breakeven' players who live of rakeback may go to the competitors, they may just get better at Poker. Party's allowing 10 tables now proves that they expect many of the mutli-tablers to migrate across to Party, because that's where the fishies are. I think this is a smart move by Party who knew they had a base which was worth more exclusive than shared, but who knows, it could backfire on them? (I personally doubt it though) Question is, will Empire go bust? Unlike Eurobet which has a sportsbook and casino, I imagine the 'exclusive' Party skins (should that be former Party skins?) will have to talk to their accountants.
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#6
10-09-2005, 09:28 AM
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Re: My take on the \'dump the skins fiasco\'
I agree with your thinking on this completely.
While there is an opportunity here for other sites to pick up market share, it probably won't change much. I think Stars could do it because they already have a big player base, but they really don't have the incentive to offer "R" or more frequent bonuses, which is the primary inducement needed to pull in more people. The smaller sites already do "R" and bigger bonuses, that hasn't changed much of anything to this point. Party has the multitablers by the balls and they know it. If you are a multitabler, are you going to go to Prima, etc. just for "R"? You might for a while, but with the lack of enough games you'll eventually go back to the Party fish pond. It's always been about the fish, it always will be. This was a brilliant business decision by them, no matter if one likes it or not. And while we are at it, call in the priest. It's time to administer last rites to Empire/Eurobet/Multi/Intertops.
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#7
10-10-2005, 03:52 PM
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Re: My take on the \'dump the skins fiasco\'
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It's time to administer last rites to Empire/Eurobet/Multi/Intertops. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure this is true. On the other hand, I just got done withdrawing all my funds from Empire. I think I will wait a month or 2 to see how this plays out. One thing confuses me about the Skins. Why did Party ever even create them in the first place? Seems like the skins could never really benefit Party. Why include them in the first place? Jim
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#8
10-11-2005, 11:36 AM
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Re: My take on the \'dump the skins fiasco\'
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The impact on many pro's that are rakeback dependent multi-tablers could be devestating. [/ QUOTE ] I don't understand how someone who depended on rakeback can be considered a 'pro.' Perhaps an illegal prop. Is an illegal prop a pro?
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#9
10-09-2005, 01:49 AM
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Re: My take on the \'dump the skins fiasco\'
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cost the firm alot of profit and customers. [/ QUOTE ] You are absolutey correct. Especially after every self respecting 2+2'r resolves to never ever play another single hand on party ever again. (cough cough) was nice, but I'm too vindictive let this fall by the wayside. Party management has a huge mountain to climb if they ever want another cent of rake from me and I would be very disappointed if this were not the case with a majority of players who are going to read this. [ QUOTE ] Mike has been a valuable poster here and carries our ideas back to Party management. He is trying to do his job AND help us poker players in general. [/ QUOTE ] I firmly believe you overestimate our friend. If he repeated half the things said here about Party Management he would be canned. He probably keeps his mouth shut and nods his head yes like every other corporate crony. Yours Sincerely, X (edited for grammer)
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#10
10-09-2005, 02:49 AM
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Re: My take on the \'dump the skins fiasco\'
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(cough cough) was nice, but I'm too vindictive let this fall by the wayside. Party management has a huge mountain to climb if they ever want another cent of rake from me and I would be very disappointed if this were not the case with a majority of players who are going to read this. [/ QUOTE ] absolutely retarded. Barron
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