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#41
08-11-2005, 04:28 PM
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Re: Did Phil Ivey implode..?Final table ESPN circuit event Take Tahoe
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If you're the chip leader like Lissandro was and you're shoving in lots of your chips against another chip leader with lots of short stacks still to be eliminated with an unimproved pair of 10s you are gonna regret it most of the time. These guys are playing for money not who never makes a mathematically incorrect fold. [/ QUOTE ] You do realize that "mathematically correct" doesn't mean cEV in a tourney, it means tEV, right? 
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#42
08-11-2005, 05:05 PM
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Re: Did Phil Ivey implode..?Final table ESPN circuit event Take Tahoe
I didnt even think he played the last hand bad. He put lisandro all in twice with good draws, lost them both, then lisandro made a good call in the last hand.
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#43
08-12-2005, 06:00 AM
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Re: Did Phil Ivey implode..?Final table ESPN circuit event Take Tahoe
Yes and in this case I believe (without doing the numbers) he had positive tEV and cEV on his call with the 10s. I mean he was only a 21-1 favorite if he calls! But the uncertainty of Ivey's hands and the relative positions of the other players made this a good fold IMO.
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#44
08-12-2005, 06:02 AM
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Re: Did Phil Ivey implode..?Final table ESPN circuit event Take Tahoe
That is a stupid comment. Just look at the last hand...Ivey is capable of going all in even when he knows he is beat.
Now whether he knew that on that 99 vs. TT hand is another matter.
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