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Old 12-15-2005, 06:20 PM
shant shant is offline
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Default Re: Calling with a 3-high flush...

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why not bet the turn and take a free showdown? if Button reraises you than it's an easy fold.

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This is what I was thinking about. The bb is NEVER check-raising the turn on a bluff.

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Yeah, but if he checkraises 2-pair or something your draw might still be good. I like the turn/river play.

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I think it's very unlikely that 2-pair would risk checking this through without a club, but who knows. I would not [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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This assumes that your opponent plays good and thinks about these possibilities. Most of the time they don't.
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Old 12-15-2005, 04:16 PM
SuitedDucks SuitedDucks is offline
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Default Re: Calling with a 3-high flush...

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why not bet the turn and take a free showdown? if Button reraises you than it's an easy fold.

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you may got donked on the river(bluff or legit) so you cant always assume you'll get the free showdown
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Old 12-15-2005, 06:01 PM
stillbr stillbr is offline
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Default Re: Calling with a 3-high flush...

I still dont know what I like best. Anyways....

BB had QJ no club and MHIG.
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:55 PM
imported_smoove imported_smoove is offline
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Default Re: Calling with a 3-high flush...

Sigh...would Villain lead out with a flush draw after you raised preflop (or ever?)? You say he doesn't seem to know what he's doing. So is he wily enough to suspect you're stealing and donk the flop for that reason? I'm leaning towards folding this flop. Just too much trouble. I'm lost on the river. I want to fold, but I suppose I'll call one.
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:02 PM
SnglMaltScotch SnglMaltScotch is offline
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Default Re: Calling with a 3-high flush...

I don't like any street but the turn. Really. I don't raise 33 from the CO with a loose button. I definitely don't raise a donk bet on the flop without a spectacular read. I might!! call with the flush on the end. But I would expect to lose.
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: Calling with a 3-high flush...

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Sigh...would Villain lead out with a flush draw after you raised preflop (or ever?)?

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Yes he will pretty much every single time. I've also seen him donk bet the flop, check/fold the turn.

Considering the way I played the flop, I dont know if I like betting the turn better.
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Old 12-15-2005, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: Calling with a 3-high flush...

Even if he's betting a flush draw on the flop he still probably has around 15 outs against you. Just fold.
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