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Live hand vs Justin A
8/16 at Oceans 11. Both of us are playing a bit loose / wacky but mostly serious. Also I am playing badly, but regardless of that, 2 limpers and I raise Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on the button. Justin coldcalls in the SB saying "let's get a kill pot" (he won the previous hand) BB folds and the two limpers call.
Flop is J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] checked to me, I bet, Justin calls, both limpers call. Turn is T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] checked to me I bet, Justin checkraises, limpers fold, I call. River is 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Justin bets and I call. -DeathDonkey |
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Re: Live hand vs Justin A
I don't see much value in a river raise either.
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Re: Live hand vs Justin A
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I don't see much value in a river raise either. [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] you're only behind KQ (unlikely given the turn check-raise) isn't this an easy river raise? |
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Re: Live hand vs Justin A
i raise/call river, KQ is a possibility, but i want to get my value out of a set
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Re: Live hand vs Justin A
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i raise/call river, KQ is a possibility, but i want to get my value out of a set [/ QUOTE ] There are more ways he can have KQ than a set. I'm guessing he doesn't pay off 2 pair, maybe he would with JTs and he will with 87s. Still not enough to raise. |
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Re: Live hand vs Justin A
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There are more ways he can have KQ than a set. I'm guessing he doesn't pay off 2 pair, maybe he would with JTs and he will with 87s. Still not enough to raise. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Both of us are playing a bit loose / wacky but mostly serious. [/ QUOTE ] i think if their both playing a bit loose and wacky, hes def going to pay off with two pair, under normal conditions, maybe not Edit: and his hand range will get bigger, especially when hes leg up |
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Re: Live hand vs Justin A
Does Justin A really think that DD is going to raise with a worse two pair?
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Re: Live hand vs Justin A
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Does Justin A really think that DD is going to raise with a worse two pair? [/ QUOTE ] i guess it depends on wht he means by loose and wacky, but probly not |
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Re: Live hand vs Justin A
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[ QUOTE ] There are more ways he can have KQ than a set. I'm guessing he doesn't pay off 2 pair, maybe he would with JTs and he will with 87s. Still not enough to raise. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Both of us are playing a bit loose / wacky but mostly serious. [/ QUOTE ] i think if their both playing a bit loose and wacky, hes def going to pay off with two pair, under normal conditions, maybe not Edit: and his hand range will get bigger, especially when hes leg up [/ QUOTE ] Playing too loose and wacky is preflop only, and only rarely. This was one of those cases because I had a leg up and if I won I would get to kill it on the button. I am not playing loose and wacky postflop at all. |
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Re: Live hand vs Justin A
Given this new info, and the fact you'd play KQ this way, I think he should call the river.
Since you did not lead on the flop, it's unlikely that Jason has a flush draw. People tend to check to the raiser, and you would rather trap the field for bets instead of facing everyone with 2 cold. Also, you cold call on the flop, which means you aren't trying to protect your hand. It seems like you're waiting for a safe turn card, or are on a draw. I think you have: J9s QTs JJ 99 66 KQ All these hands make sense from PF to river. Given these card combos, you have KQ 50% of the time. River call is fine. Someone correct me if I missed something. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] |
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