TP faced turnraise

#1 11-17-2005, 08:22 AM

Villain is 56/20/1.4
As you can see he's LAG preflop but tones down a bit postflop.
Only thing I have on him is that a few hands ago he called flop with Mid Pair on a J8x board and raised turn when he got a flushdraw HU.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, CO raises, 1 fold, SB calls $16.05 (All-In), Hero 3-bets, UTG calls, CO calls.

Flop: (11.10 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets, UTG calls, CO calls.

Turn: (7.05 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets, UTG folds, CO raises, Hero calls.

River: (11.05 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.05 BB

I know it's a boring, standard hand. But I feel like I calldown too much lately.
When he raises the turn, I'm pretty sure he has atleast TP or better.
I guess there isn't any other way to play this hand, but I just wanted to ask, are there times when you fold this on the river?

Roy6 · #2 11-17-2005, 08:55 AM

I thought the question was to 3-bet turn or just call the turn. I don't think folding is an option here. You played this hand fine.

stigmata · #3 11-17-2005, 09:17 AM

Standard.

His stats are pretty damn aggressive, I def. think you will be shown top pair with a weaker kicker often enough.

aba20 · #4 11-17-2005, 03:42 PM

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Villain is 56/20/1.4

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This guy does not slow down postflop. He is pretty agro both pre and post flop. A 1.4 agression factor is high for someone who plays 56% of there hands. I would three bet the turn as he could have as little as a flush draw, or an ace with no kicker. You should not be trying to make big laydowns against a player as aggressive as this.

#5 11-17-2005, 05:05 PM

I think you have to bet that river, in case the turn raise was a semibluff or top pair with a weaker kicker. You have to keep him from checking through a missed club draw and extract value from weaker kickers. AT or AK are unlikely enough that even calling a river raise is OK, I think.

Entity · #6 11-17-2005, 05:13 PM

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You have to keep him from checking through a missed club draw and extract value from weaker kickers.

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This doesn't make sense. He's usually not free showdowning on this board with an all-in player protecting the pot, and he's not calling a bet with missed clubs.

Rob

#7 11-17-2005, 05:35 PM

Yes, you're right. I'm on crack. But do we still have value from weaker kickers?