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Old 10-25-2004, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: Are we playing bad NL holdem?

A couple things. Raising sufficiently before the flop is another way to make draws pay. Why not make suited connectors pay to see the flop when you're holding a big ace?

Overbetting the pot is a good way to get trapped. If you overbet the pot, you'll probably only get called by a set/made hand.

Everyone already knows that stuff.

I'm primarily a no-limit player. I have noticed that limit players don't realize that calling a pot-sized bet on the flop with an OESD or flush draw is incorrect when strictly speaking about math and pot odds. Calling can be correct for implied odds reasons if you know your opponents, but I'll talk to why it is incorrect for strictly pot odds reasons.

Calling a bet getting 2-1 pot odds is ok if you're truly 2-1 to hit your card, but in no-limit, you may face another pot-sized bet on the turn. Your chances of hitting on the turn are 4-1, not 2-1. If you miss on the turn, you'll be priced out of the hand before the river with another pot-sized bet getting 2-1 pot odds for another 4-1 shot.

Sounds like your table pays off hidden hands like sets so calling with any two may be correct if you won't face a preflop raise. When folks overbet the pot against you, it is easy to milk them for a large pot.
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