QQ, is playing this any harder spewing???

RiverTheNuts · #1 07-21-2005, 09:36 PM

Postflop I lose to JT, as well as AA-TT, is this about the right level of aggression?

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP1 posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP1 (poster) checks, MP2 calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, Hero caps, SB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (18 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (13.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

River: (16.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 18.50 BB

shadow29 · #2 07-21-2005, 09:38 PM

If you're calling the flop 3-bet, I think that you need to raise the turn.

@bsolute_luck · #3 07-21-2005, 10:01 PM

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If you're calling the flop 3-bet, I think that you need to raise the turn.

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yeah you gotta put in an extra raise somewhere.

topspin · #4 07-21-2005, 10:04 PM

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If you're calling the flop 3-bet, I think that you need to raise the turn.

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Why? After villain calls the flop cap and 3-bets the flop, what range of hands do you put him on that we are a favorite against?

RiverTheNuts · #5 07-21-2005, 10:05 PM

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If you're calling the flop 3-bet, I think that you need to raise the turn.

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Why? After villain calls the flop cap and 3-bets the flop, what range of hands do you put him on that we are a favorite against?

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AK-AK [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ... seriously, I didnt see ANYTHING I was beating that would keep calling bets if I kept pumping

detruncate · #6 07-21-2005, 10:13 PM

I disagree. What range of hands do we put Villain on after we cap him pf and he leads and 3-bets the flop?

Reads would help a lot Mr. RIVERTHENUTS. Any particular reason they weren't included other than laziness?

He's showing a hell of a lot of strength. About the only hand we like to see at this point is AJ unless he's a total LAG, and we have no reason to think that he is without some sort of read. I'm happy calling down.

hicherbie · #7 07-21-2005, 10:55 PM

i think any more aggression here is only ok if hero can find a fold somewhere against further strength.

but most of the time the action and lack of a read should = a cheap sd.

eviljeff · #8 07-21-2005, 11:34 PM

pf, flop standard.

honestly I might be able to find a fold on the turn. I know the pot is huge, but what are we ahead of here? A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is all I can see. maybe a KQ?

shadow29 · #9 07-21-2005, 11:45 PM

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If you're calling the flop 3-bet, I think that you need to raise the turn.

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Why? After villain calls the flop cap and 3-bets the flop, what range of hands do you put him on that we are a favorite against?

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ugh I need to start reading more carefully. I missed SB's complicity in the pre-flop action.

I think that hero's line is good.

@bsolute_luck · #10 07-22-2005, 06:16 AM

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pf, flop standard.

honestly I might be able to find a fold on the turn. I know the pot is huge, but what are we ahead of here? A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is all I can see. maybe a KQ?

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i've comed to learn by your postings: you're a fan of the "big laydown" [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

i was watch WSOP on tv and Hellmouth says "i can't play any better. i made all the big laydowns and..blah blah". no wonder your out dumbass. you don't win by folding!