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Old 06-29-2005, 08:13 PM
QTip QTip is offline
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Default KQo steal

You're the button with KQo, and raise. The sb folds, but the bb (a semi-loose and fairly aggressive player) calls.

The flop comes: 268r

Scenario 1: bb bets, you do what and why?

Scenario 2: bb checks, you do what and why?

Edit: I'm going to play some cards. I'll respond to response later tonight.
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Old 06-29-2005, 08:23 PM
WillMagic WillMagic is offline
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Default Re: KQo steal

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You're the button with KQo, and raise. The sb folds, but the bb (a semi-loose and fairly aggressive player) calls.

The flop comes: 268r

Scenario 1: bb bets, you do what and why?

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I raise, because he could be making this bet with a super-wide range of hands, so I'd like to put myself in the position to get the no-pair hands (especially ace-high) to fold the turn.

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Scenario 2: bb checks, you do what and why?

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I bet because it's my best and least expensive chance at winning the pot. If I check, he'll almost certainly lead the turn and I'll probably have to fold. But betting only costs a small bet and it will take the pot down often enough to be worthwhile.
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Old 06-29-2005, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: KQo steal

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Scenario 2: bb checks, you do what and why?

I bet because it's my best and least expensive chance at winning the pot. If I check, he'll almost certainly lead the turn and I'll probably have to fold. But betting only costs a small bet and it will take the pot down often enough to be worthwhile.

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What's the plan if C/R'd on the flop?


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Old 06-29-2005, 08:45 PM
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First hand, call and raise a bunch of turns. 2nd, bet.

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Old 06-29-2005, 10:38 PM
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Default Re: KQo steal

What would you do if you knew his hand was 89o?
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Old 06-29-2005, 10:59 PM
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Hey Qtip,

I almost alwaysw smooth call in situtations like 1), I find I'm less likely to get free cards against this player. I also very often smoothcall made hands and raise the turn, so I dont see this to be a problem with my shania or anything either.

I will raise the overcards if I have two backdoor draws (makes the free card worth more, and it's less "expensive" if I get 3-bet because i have more equity)...conversely I will also go to war with AA/KK and any set.

in situation 2, I often bet because I likely have the best hand, and when he does not decide to c/r I often get another option on the turn of bet or check, and I like having that option...in addition when my overcard comes on the turn, he is less likely to put me on it.

ok I'm off to enjoy my good 5/10 session - it's been a while since i've had one of these
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Old 06-29-2005, 11:07 PM
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What would you do if you knew his hand was 89o?

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I want to see how people answer this. The answer is very easy, but I'm sort of intrigued to see how some people approach it.
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Old 06-29-2005, 11:14 PM
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Default Re: KQo steal

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What would you do if you knew his hand was 89o?

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I want to see how people answer this. The answer is very easy, but I'm sort of intrigued to see how some people approach it.

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I thought the thought process would be a good exercise.
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Old 06-29-2005, 11:15 PM
JJH3984 JJH3984 is offline
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If you know he has 89 Fold. Easy fold. I don't know if its right to raise if you could get the free card every time but you won't. The pot is laying you 4.5-1 and you have 6 outs which is 6.8-1 against making your hand. Plus if this player has any idea whats going on SH, you will get a free card a very small amount of the time.
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Old 06-29-2005, 11:15 PM
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I agree. I can't tell if you're reinforcing what I said or disagreeing, but I agree with you, just for the record.
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