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Old 03-02-2005, 11:23 PM
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Default Re: Big Tourney-A/A First Hand Vs. Five All-In Players

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Turn the question around--One player bets all- in to you and you KNOW your chance of winning is 42%. Call or fold?

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The question that you just asked is completely different and irrelevant. In the original poster's question, you had a 42% chance of winning against 5 people. That means you have a 42% chance of multiplying your stack by 6. In your question you have a 42% of doubling your stack, which is completely different.

The answer to your question is obvious: Fold. Your EV after folding is 10,000. Your EV after calling is (.42)*(20,000)= 8,400.

In comparison, the EV of folding AA the original question is 10,000. The EV of calling is (.42)*(60,000) = 25,200.
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Old 03-02-2005, 11:28 PM
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Just because YOU don't find the question interesting, and YOU know how it should be played, and YOU have seen it on these forums before......does not mean that others who may be new to these forums (or may have not read every thread) are familiar with it.

If you don't care for the question/thread, then just don't post in it, simple enough to handle I'd think.

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You can choose to be interested in whatever you want, but if this question still interests you, your knowledge of tournament poker theory is poor. This question is the poker equivalent of asking whether the world is round or flat. The correct play in this situation is to call. And as Sklansky would say, "It is not even close."
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Old 03-02-2005, 11:30 PM
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Just because YOU don't find the question interesting, and YOU know how it should be played, and YOU have seen it on these forums before......does not mean that others who may be new to these forums (or may have not read every thread) are familiar with it.

If you don't care for the question/thread, then just don't post in it, simple enough to handle I'd think.

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You can choose to be interested in whatever you want, but if this question still interests you, your knowledge of tournament poker theory is poor. This question is the poker equivalent of asking whether the world is round or flat. The correct play in this situation is to call. And as Sklansky would say, "It is not even close."

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What I find interesting is the variety of responses. I would of course call based on the pot-odds, but it's interesting to see the percentage of players who would fold and try to "survive"
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Old 03-03-2005, 09:37 AM
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Default Re: Big Tourney-A/A First Hand Vs. Five All-In Players

I can see those cards they have? Easiest call ever.
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Old 03-03-2005, 09:39 AM
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You have an ENORMOUS edge against thoe hands. Everybody has blocker for everyone else. I call there w/o hesitation.
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Old 03-03-2005, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: Big Tourney-A/A First Hand Vs. Five All-In Players

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You can choose to be interested in whatever you want, but if this question still interests you, your knowledge of tournament poker theory is poor. This question is the poker equivalent of asking whether the world is round or flat. The correct play in this situation is to call. And as Sklansky would say, "It is not even close."

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He has already stated that he knows what the right decision is, his intrigue is on the general awareness of the right answer.
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Old 03-03-2005, 12:48 PM
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this poll is retarded. anybody thinking about folding is retarded.
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Old 03-04-2005, 03:56 AM
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Default Re: Big Tourney-A/A First Hand Vs. Five All-In Players

Well - Ive had one situation where Ive folded AA preflop..

late in a toury, close to the money, in the SB. Im 2nd in chips at the table, 1st in chips is all-in, along with 3 others..
given my stack size, the stage of the tourny, and the number of players in, I opted to fold... painfully.

maybe it was wrong.... if it were a cash game Id never lay it down.
However, I would have ended up losing to a straight.
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Old 03-04-2005, 04:17 AM
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However, I would have ended up losing to a straight.

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-Objection, irrelevant!
-Sustained.

Terrible fold
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Old 03-04-2005, 04:33 AM
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Default Re: Big Tourney-A/A First Hand Vs. Five All-In Players

Perhaps.
But late in a tourny, with a large chip stack, Id rather not get all my money in the pot when Im probably not even 50% to win.
Fewer chips, I would have called.

Call me 'too tight for my own good'... but in a different situation, I would called.
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