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#2
11-13-2005, 05:09 PM
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Re: AKs.
I'm not insisting I played the hand well. I'm insisting I do not like raising here for reasons suggested. It could be very wrong.
Instead of being a turd, please give me reasons why raising is good and calling sucks? Thanks. 
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#3
11-13-2005, 05:13 PM
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Re: AKs.
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I'm not insisting I played the hand well. I'm insisting I do not like raising here for reasons suggested. It could be very wrong. Instead of being a turd, please give me reasons why raising is good and calling sucks? Thanks. [/ QUOTE ] Davis covered them pretty well.
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#4
11-13-2005, 05:21 PM
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Re: AKs.
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Also this pot isn't even heads up. You are letting people in behind you getting like 7 to 1 with cheese hands like T9. [/ QUOTE ] T9o is not a likely hand. There is only one other person in the pot and he's most likely set mining with his limp-call. I expect a fold from him. [ QUOTE ] I rarely find myself getting donk bet for half pot on the turn in this scenario, but if I did, I would just fold. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, and neither will I. I will call and evaluate turn. Let me ask you something: What is wrong with calling if I am fairly certain that Villain will slow down if he is beat, will only lead again if I am beat, and would fold all worse hands to a raise and only call with better hands. This whole raise screams of reverse implied odds. I guess I am just a weak-tight wuss. I'm sleepy now. Thanks for excellent discussions, guys. Thanks for your help, Davis. Later.
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#5
11-13-2005, 06:20 PM
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Re: AKs.
I think it's close between raising or calling the flop. The arguments on either side are based on very subjective ideas of your opponent's motives, and are basically all moot without reads. If you flat call the flop, check the turn and call the river. If you raise the flop, try to get a cheap showdown if called, especially after that turn.
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#7
11-13-2005, 06:53 PM
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Re: AKs.
I used to freeze up when someone led into me with a board like this and I would flat call like you did. Then they would bet the turn and I would be in the same spot. Calling in NL sucks.
I raise here every time now. I'll check behind on the turn if he calls. Ive done much better with this line.
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#8
11-13-2005, 07:44 PM
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Re: AKs.
Given his actions (and your PFR) I would put him on the next hands:
1)AA, AK, AQ, KQ, QQ, QJ, JT, 99 or a stone cold bluff induced by you calling (not reraising) his weak flop bet. If you had reraised his flop bet, his possible hands would have been: 2)AA, AK, AQ, KQ, QQ, JT, 99 So when the river Q hits you: in case 1) you only beat the bluf in case 2) you beat nothing So raising or callng a raise is bad since you only beat a bluff. You should have either reraised the flop, or checked the turn.
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