300-600 hand VS Mimi Tran

Steve Giufre · #1 10-15-2005, 02:52 PM

Played some 3-6 for the first time last night and got head kicked in. The game was great though. Anyhow 6 handed and a tilting Mimi Tran open raises from the cutoff. The button folds and I three bet A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. BB plays well but defintely too loose preflop. He agonizes and calls. She caps, we call.

Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

We check, she bets and we both call.

Turn: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

We check, she bets, I call and he calls.

River: K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

We check she bets and I fold.

Dave Mac · #2 10-15-2005, 02:53 PM

I would cr the flop, and call the river.
dave

mike l. · #3 10-15-2005, 02:56 PM

hi

this hand makes no sense to me. please explain.

mike

Dave Mac · #4 10-15-2005, 03:03 PM

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this hand makes no sense to me. please explain.

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JackOfSpeed · #5 10-15-2005, 03:03 PM

Bizarre fold on the river. Please explain.

Steve Giufre · #6 10-15-2005, 04:08 PM

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Bizarre fold on the river. Please explain.

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She was tilting some yeah, but maybe I should have been more specific about her play. She was calling too many raises and not playing her best, but I dont think players like her go on crazy donkey tilt where they cap A8 offsuit and make mindless plays very often. Maybe I'm wrong, but its hard for me to put her on too many hands I can beat when she fires again on the river. There is also a third guy in the hand who called two cold from the bb who has now called the flop and turn. Niether one of use had been out of line prvious to this, and the board is not draw heavy. I have to think she is expecting to be called in at least one spot when she bets again. I can think of a lot of different ways to play the hand up to the river, but I really didnt have that hard of a time making the river fold.

mc1023 · #7 10-15-2005, 04:35 PM

if she thinks you both have draws it would give her even more reason to bet out again with a lot of hands you beat.

either way no way I fold this considering the size of the pot, your getting 12:1 on your call.

also if BB had a hand like AJ AQ, I'm sure we would've heard from him by now.

Steve Giufre · #8 10-15-2005, 04:43 PM

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if she thinks you both have draws it would give her even more reason to bet out again with a lot of hands you beat.

either way no way I fold this considering the size of the pot, your getting 12:1 on your call.

also if BB had a hand like AJ AQ, I'm sure we would've heard from him by now.

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Of course she has more reason to bet if she thinks we were calling to try to improve and not to showdown, but why would she think we have draws considering the board? I dont think it looks likes either of us have a draw. I also dont really agree that we would have heard from AJ AQ if the BB had either of those hands. I love how you guys think her preflop cap again two solid players means absolutey nothing. In the hour and a half I played with her it was the the only time I saw her cap, and I only remember her three betting a few hands. Why couldnt the BB just be trying to get to the river cheaply with something like AJ?

mike l. · #9 10-15-2005, 04:57 PM

id figure youd say something like that. your thinking/read is not strong enough here to make the river fold given the pot size. you must call. your fold on the river here is very very bad.

Steve Giufre · #10 10-15-2005, 05:03 PM

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id figure youd say something like that. your thinking/read is not strong enough here to make the river fold given the pot size. you must call. your fold on the river here is very very bad.

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Could be. But I also think I mislead you guys with my descriptions of both players. You know the BB im sure, middle eatern guy, mid 20's, has a twin brother. She also has a normal cap range here. Her "tilt", was more limping behind fish too much, and cold calling in some real marginal spots. Could be its a call on the end, but I think if you were at the table you would think its a lot closer than you do now. Anyhow 12-1 is a lot, I'll give ya that.