How do you fully recover from a losing month?

#1 09-09-2005, 06:26 PM

I have played online poker for about 2 years and have been a decent player with .5/1 and 1/2 limit tables. Usually playing 25 hours a week and making about and average of $100 a month. However, last month just before considering moving up to 2/4, I have lost about $400. I feel that I have been playing as good as before but how do I know for sure, if I keep loosing by the end of the week after week? I have read Small Stakes Hold'em by Ed Miller, among 4 or 5 other books, and whenever I re-read it I got a little better, but I dont want to be playing with the book on my lap all the time. I know about variance and bad beats but is this normal variance? and how do you improve after bad beats? How do you keep your play strong without becoming weak-thight or loose aggresive.
Any suggestions?
PS. I know this might be better for micro-limits but I figured that the experienced ones would be already on small or higher stakes, and maybe been successful through similar bad expierences.

MrEngenic · #2 09-09-2005, 06:35 PM

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...played online poker for about 2 years ... 25 hours a week ... making about and average of $100 a month ... considering moving up to 2/4

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Don't move up to 2/4 this DECADE if you cant make more than 100 $ a month on average playing 0.5/1 and 1/2 for 25 h a week for two years!

#3 09-09-2005, 06:38 PM

So how much sould I be making at those limits before moving up?? [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

MrEngenic · #4 09-09-2005, 06:45 PM

At 0.5/1: something like 3 BB/h 4 tabling = 12 $/h ~= 1200 $ / month. At 1/2 more of course.

100 $ a month just doesn't cut it.

W. Deranged · #5 09-09-2005, 06:53 PM

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At 0.5/1: something like 3 BB/h 4 tabling = 12 $/h ~= 1200 $ / month. At 1/2 more of course.

100 $ a month just doesn't cut it.

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3 BB/h... that's a very high estimate. That would imply like 4-5 BB/100. Is that possible at .5/1? I've never played that limit but I know it's pretty unreasonable to assume at $2/4 and up... Maybe 1.5 BB/h per table is more reasonable.

MrEngenic · #6 09-09-2005, 06:56 PM

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3 BB/h... that's a very high estimate. That would imply like 4-5 BB/100. Is that possible at .5/1? I've never played that limit but I know it's pretty unreasonable to assume at $2/4 and up... Maybe 1.5 BB/h per table is more reasonable.

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It's very reasonable. Players are much much worse on 0.5/1, especially if you add a pacific table to the mix.

W. Deranged · #7 09-09-2005, 06:57 PM

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3 BB/h... that's a very high estimate. That would imply like 4-5 BB/100. Is that possible at .5/1? I've never played that limit but I know it's pretty unreasonable to assume at $2/4 and up... Maybe 1.5 BB/h per table is more reasonable.

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It's very reasonable. Players are much much worse on 0.5/1, especially if you add a pacific table to the mix.

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Cool. Just checking. I believe you.

Hojglad · #8 09-09-2005, 07:00 PM

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3 BB/h... that's a very high estimate. That would imply like 4-5 BB/100. Is that possible at .5/1? I've never played that limit but I know it's pretty unreasonable to assume at $2/4 and up... Maybe 1.5 BB/h per table is more reasonable.

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It's very reasonable. Players are much much worse on 0.5/1, especially if you add a pacific table to the mix.

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Cool. Just checking. I believe you.

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Wouldn't 3 BB/hr 4 tabling be 1.25 BB/100 assuming 60 hands per table hour?

Edit: Nevermind, he said 3 BB/hr 4 tabling but he meant 3 BB/table hour.

Harv72b · #9 09-09-2005, 07:08 PM

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3 BB/h... that's a very high estimate. That would imply like 4-5 BB/100. Is that possible at .5/1? I've never played that limit but I know it's pretty unreasonable to assume at $2/4 and up... Maybe 1.5 BB/h per table is more reasonable.

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I think he means 3 BB/hour total, over the 4 tables, and not 3 BB/table hour.

EDIT: eep, nevermind. He means per table hour, and I think that's very excessive while 4 tabling.

#10 09-09-2005, 07:17 PM

You didn't mention how many tables you're playing at the same time. I'm assuming one table, which would go a long way to explaining the $100 a month. Still, assuming you're spread 50/50 between .5/1 and 1/2, 100 hours a month, ~ 60 hands an hour is 6,000 hands a month, one weighted BB is $1.5 and you're making 1.11 bb/100 hands, or .66 bb/hr. You need to get your winrate at 1/2 above 2 bb/hour or 2/4's variance will destroy you. If you have a hard time dealing with a $400 downswing, how will it feel at $800 in the hole? My winrate at 1/2 was abot 2.5bb/100 and I still went down at least 125 bb when i started learning 2/4. Only now am i crawling out of the hole (thanks, bad beat jackpot tables and the fish you bring me.)

Go back down to .5/1 and start playing two tables. Get your winrate up to 2 bb then move to 1/2. Stablize there then go to 3 tables. Then, maybe, 2/4 might be good for you.