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#21
09-01-2005, 04:48 PM
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Re: How to play this?
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Turn: (4.66 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero folds. [/ QUOTE ] Why raise the flop and then pass up the free card. You can showdown for <= to 1BB and possibly fill up? If you're flop raise got JJ, say, to check the turn that's huge. If Villain has the nine, he made a terrible mistake checking to you. 
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#22
09-01-2005, 04:57 PM
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Re: How to play this?
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[ QUOTE ] Turn: (4.66 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero folds. [/ QUOTE ] Why raise the flop and then pass up the free card. You can showdown for <= to 1BB and possibly fill up? If you're flop raise got JJ, say, to check the turn that's huge. If Villain has the nine, he made a terrible mistake checking to you. [/ QUOTE ] Why would you raise the flop for a free card here? If we are drawing we clearly do not have the odds to continue and by checking the turn we are giving villian a free card here not taking one if we need to improve this is a clear fold on the flop.
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#24
09-01-2005, 05:49 PM
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Re: How to play this?
The number of players in the pot is key:
In a three-way pot, you played the hand perfectly. In a five-way pot, you should just fold the flop.
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#25
09-01-2005, 05:59 PM
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Re: How to play this?
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[ QUOTE ] Turn: (4.66 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero folds. [/ QUOTE ] Why raise the flop and then pass up the free card. You can showdown for <= to 1BB and possibly fill up? If you're flop raise got JJ, say, to check the turn that's huge. If Villain has the nine, he made a terrible mistake checking to you. [/ QUOTE ] This is really bad advice, in my opinion. If we are raising the flop, it is not for a free card. It is because we are beating second pair and believe that it is particularly likely we have the best hand. The 9 is a good card for us in that it makes it less likely that someone has a 9 (and we've sucked out on bottom two pair). Hence, it is in fact imperative that we bet the turn in order to protect our hand, which is vulnerable to many overcards, and to encourage opponents with live outs against us to fold or pay to draw. We only have two outs to improve! How could our flop raise possibly be for a free card! Remember: tend to bet the turn when you have few outs (like here) and to check when you have many outs.
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#26
09-10-2005, 01:08 PM
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Re: How to play this?
How do you call the flop?
5 people, at least one has a 9. Chances are its the guy betting at you. Fold and save a SB on the flop.
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