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Either the Best Call or the Worst Call I\'ve Ever Seen - Opinions?
BM 5-10 (I have $7500ish, opp covers)
Folded to me in the Cutoff with KJ [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], raise to $30 - opp who is loose and bad reraises to $100. I call. Flop is 4 10 A. I check, he bets $400 (I'm thinking he has KK or QQ at this point). I raise to $1000. He just calls. Odd. Turn 6. I bet $1500. Again, he just calls. I am almost certain he has KK. River A. I push. He calls. Oops. I table my second nut no pair. He tables the first nut no pair - KQ. WTF? First, I understand that I overplayed this hand. I've been doing that a lot lately and don't need anyone to tell me. I've been running really hot lately and as a result, I'm full of myself and start to think I can outplay everyone - hence this kind of play. Has everyone ever been called down by a hand like this? Doesn't the flop checkraise let him know I have at least a pair? So, best call or worst call ever - it has to be one of the two, no? |
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Re: Either the Best Call or the Worst Call I\'ve Ever Seen - Opinions?
Oh and PS - this is not a bad beat post - I'm not whining in the least. I just thought this was interesting and wanted to get your thoughts on what might go through someone's head here.
Obviously, I think his call is horrible, but I'm wondering if something in my betting pattern, etc. gave something away. Just in case I wasn't clear. |
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Re: Either the Best Call or the Worst Call I\'ve Ever Seen - Opinions?
I think I will give Villain benefit of the doubt and say good call.
The first question is, why call reraise preflop? I guess stacks were so deep it is correct but seems like you are dominated like 50% of the time here. The second question is, if opponent has gone that far with KK, what makes you think he will fold on the river, when the river made his hand better? The third question is, why not pick a better spot for someone who will put 750 BB's in with king high? This almost makes me feel this hand is made up. |
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Re: Either the Best Call or the Worst Call I\'ve Ever Seen - Opinions?
I agree with everything you said. I've just been doing this a lot lately and hands like this are probably very slightly +EV long run for me. Honestly, I've been getting board with poker and doing this helps me mix it up.
Admittedly, I took this particular hand too far. |
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Re: Either the Best Call or the Worst Call I\'ve Ever Seen - Opinions?
If this happened to me I would've thought he somehow saw my cards.
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Re: Either the Best Call or the Worst Call I\'ve Ever Seen - Opinions?
Totally opposite end of the table - No chance of this happening.
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Re: Either the Best Call or the Worst Call I\'ve Ever Seen - Opinions?
Seriously...is there some way he could have seen your cards? I mean, even if you have some horrible tell that reveals you don't have a great hand...he STILL only has K high.
What if he was correct in his read, but you had some tiny pocket pair or low pair and were "bluffing" with the best hand? Something is very, very fishy about this. And if he doesn't know exactly what you hold, it is the most bizarre play ever on his part. Unless, he misread his hand and thinks he has something better than just K high. Or is it possible that he's one of those players who says to himself "I know this guy is bluffing, therefor I call", even though he might not be able to beat your "bluff"? |
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Re: Either the Best Call or the Worst Call I\'ve Ever Seen - Opinions?
He was horrible, as in one of those guys who calls with J high and says that he knew his opponent was bluffing.
I thought that the checkraise on the flop would at least make it clear that I had a pair. It wasn't exactly a draw heavy board. And again, there was no chance at all, unless there was a lipstick cam left over from a tournament that he had access to. I'm very protective of my cards including shielding them from people who may be standing behind me, and I only look once. |
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Re: Either the Best Call or the Worst Call I\'ve Ever Seen - Opinions?
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He was horrible, as in one of those guys who calls with J high and says that he knew his opponent was bluffing. [/ QUOTE ] I certainly hope that you decided this AFTER you bluffed off your entire stack to him! If so, rebuy and make the same play with pocket 2's. If not, lesson learned. |
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Re: Either the Best Call or the Worst Call I\'ve Ever Seen - Opinions?
He was value betting against his opponent's J high.
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