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I agree Cyrus,

Race is a meaningless concept, there is no concensus about its meaning. There surely are no scientific definitions for it. Phil, is, in this rare instance, lacking rigour. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

And the post which could have been interesting from a cultural viewpoint (ie comparing advanced cultures that have eliminated the death penalty and allow homosexual marriage for instances, against more retarded cultures that do not).

I for one enjoy taking the best of any culture and, as far as as appearnce are concerned, whether the black hair are curly or straight, the eyes, blue, green or brown etc... I like them all and indeed have married a few, much to my delight. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Warren Whitmore]

In sir Francis Galtons book "Hereditary Genius" He worked very hard at this question. He traveled Africa extensivly in many cases being the first European to have been seen by the various tribes. His data suggested (in shock from the scientific community at the time) was that the disparity among the various tribes was huge. Some tribes being equal or smarter than Europeans and some barly functional. Given that he was a great statistician and scientist (he developed the math for regression to the mean). I suspect he was right.

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... the disparity among the various european tribes was huge. Some tribes being equal or smarter than Africans and some barely functional...

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FYP

Lets say one race is physically more gifted than another. WHy is it one race cannot be more mentally gifted than another.

I actually don't believe this. It is only really in the USA you see this. This is quite simply because of who was immigrated over to the United States. African Americans were immigrated due to their physical traits and Asian Americans have come over here (especially lately) due to their intellectual capabilities.

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..the elite of all races excell;

there is a fallacy there;

and why wasn't this guy censored.??

lol

gl

[Shandrax]

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Since, in the long run, the busier these forums are, the more money I make, I couldn't let this comment from Phil153 get buried in another thread. So I repeat it here:

"The fact is that some races and cultures just aren't cut out for civilised society. They breed like rabbits and exhibit widespread features of low intelligence, poor coping skills and aggressive, anti social behaviour. Half of all murders (and much of the crime) in the U.S. are caused by a particular race, and as a minority group, I'm convinced they don't have the brain capacity to survive and contribute positively in modern civilisation. Despite many years and government efforts, the SAT scores of a certain race remain shockingly low. They are on the border of retardation. Even the elite of this race fail to excel. Compare this with any other minority and the results are clear to anyone without a bias. Asians routinely outperform whites and are disproportionately represented at elite universities, despite being a minority and in spite of poverty and limited integration into society."

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This is actually a funny quote, because it contains some sort of forbidden truth. Everyone knows that there are racial differences amongst humans, but we don't talk about it.

Just watch track&field sports. It is obvious to everyone that black athletes dominate running. I mean you can't argue against all the world records and all of the white guys coming in last. Same with boxing. We all know the quote "never bet on the white guy". This is a rule made out of experience. Look at the french soccer national team. 1 white guy as goalie, 9 black guys + Zidanne and that despite the fact that France has basically a white population. In other sports it is different. For some reason you only see white swimmers set records.

While this is all more or less accepted, people don't like to talk about the possible difference in intelligence. It is similar to breaking an unwritten codex. Still there is evidence also. Did you know that there is only one black chess grandmaster (Maurice Ashley, USA) in the whole world and his actual playing strength is currently below GM level?

I call myself a racist, but not in a negative way. I don't hate other races and I don't fight them. I just think that there are small differences amongst races which make them a favorite or an underdog in certain areas. Some run faster, some swim faster, some score higher averages on IQ tests, some grow taller and so on. Basically this doesn't have to be bad, just know your strengths and make the best out of it.

Shandrax,

You are making the mistakes that most ignorant racists make altough trying to coach it in palatable terms.

You see, red heads have stronger phrenomes, olive skins don't get as sunburnt as white skins. I am sure there is a correlation between eye color and color blindness. Blod type is more important than apperaances when it comes to blood donations. Those are all superficial features, like saying tall people are better at basketball. It means very little. It is the concept of race that strangely enough is odd.

[Shandrax]

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Shandrax,

You are making the mistakes that most ignorant racists make altough trying to coach it in palatable terms.

You see, red heads have stronger phrenomes, olive skins don't get as sunburnt as white skins. I am sure there is a correlation between eye color and color blindness. Blod type is more important than apperaances when it comes to blood donations. Those are all superficial features, like saying tall people are better at basketball. It means very little. It is the concept of race that strangely enough is odd.

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I am just going with statistics and I am actually trying to be as objective as possible. It is simply a fact that african americans outrun all white athletes from the US and Europe combined. In France and the Netherlands for example black kids get free education just like white kids, but almost none of them ends up studying physics or math. Now every once in a while one will make it and prove the statistics wrong, but is that really the case? I think it is all within the usual variance.

In my opinion it is ridiculous to assume that racial differences only apply to the likelyhood of getting sunburns. Still you can't have a reasonable discussion about the subject. I remember the heart-medication that only worked on black people and all the discussion about it in the media. The subject is simply forbidden.

P.S.: Before I forget it. If someone ever makes a study about the spread of ADS (attention deficite syndrom) amongst races, I predict that asians have the lowest percentage.

[Shandrax]

I guess, this one fits it best [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2...seekers-p1.php

shandrax,

you are stil making the mistake... race is not a scientific definable concept afaik. Correct me if I am wrong.

By the way gene pools doesn't do the trick as its boundaries are not aligned with anything like what people are trying to say when they use the word "race".