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Old 04-04-2005, 08:40 PM
MisterKing MisterKing is offline
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Default K3 s0000ted... spewing chips or classic SSH?

Villian is 53/3/1.2 and prone to bet when he should check/call, and really, seems to hate his fold button pre-flop, but can be pused post-flop. Others in the hand are weak-loose. I've really never made this flop play before a week or two ago, and am trying to gauge how far to take my Ed Miller routine. From what I can tell, this is pretty standard (as long as I have the backdoor flush draw to go with bottom pair good kicker & best position).

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, Button folds, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Anyone betting this turn? I doubt MHIG at this point.

River: (4.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB
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Old 04-04-2005, 08:47 PM
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Default Re: K3 s0000ted... spewing chips or classic SSH?

Other than not liking preflop, I like the whole thing.
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Old 04-04-2005, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: K3 s0000ted... spewing chips or classic SSH?

I think your preflop limp is too loose. I save the suited kings for late position with a few bad limpers.
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Old 04-04-2005, 08:50 PM
MisterKing MisterKing is offline
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Default Re: K3 s0000ted... spewing chips or classic SSH?

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I think your preflop limp is too loose. I save the suited kings for late position with a few bad limpers.

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Understandable. With CO and Button having 60+/0/0.5 type stats each, I figured I could expand my limp range slightly in semi-late position. Table average VP$IP was in excess of 40 at this point, and we were routinely seeing flops 6 handed. Still hate the limp?
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Old 04-04-2005, 08:55 PM
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Default Re: K3 s0000ted... spewing chips or classic SSH?

Eh, I think I'd still save it for a better spot. I think the rest of the hand is ok though.
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Old 04-04-2005, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: K3 s0000ted... spewing chips or classic SSH?

"... spewing chips or classic SSH?"

Basically one and the same.
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Old 04-04-2005, 09:29 PM
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Default Re: K3 s0000ted... spewing chips or classic SSH?

I like the last 2 streets, I hate the first 2.
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Old 04-04-2005, 09:32 PM
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Default Re: K3 s0000ted... spewing chips or classic SSH?

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I like the last 2 streets, I hate the first 2.

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Yeah, me too. I really like where he got lucky and spiked a K. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 04-04-2005, 09:37 PM
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Default Re: K3 s0000ted... spewing chips or classic SSH?

Go back to SSH and find an example where Ed suggests protecting a hand this weak for *a pot this small*. You can do it by skimming because Ed was so good about putting in pot sizes.
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Old 04-04-2005, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: K3 s0000ted... spewing chips or classic SSH?

backdoor flush draw and bottom pair, I'm continuing to the turn with this hand, and what's wrong with driving out people?
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