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Old 02-05-2005, 05:17 PM
Glurfle Glurfle is offline
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Default Party 15 KK unimproved vs 4 opponents

I've been at the table for maybe 15 minutes. Preflop raiser seems reasonable. UTG+2 is really loose and passive preflop, mostly just passive postflop. SB is pretty LAG when he's the first one in, and too loose. No reads on the rest of the party.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (16 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

Anyone want to check this in favor of trying for a turn raise?

Turn: (10.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

River: (15.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero ...

Anyone want to hit it again?
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Old 02-05-2005, 05:37 PM
ggbman ggbman is offline
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Default Re: Party 15 KK unimproved vs 4 opponents

I think you can go either way here. I don't think you lose much by checking behind here, its hard to imagine no one had top pair 25% of the time.
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Old 02-05-2005, 05:49 PM
chesspain chesspain is offline
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Default Re: Party 15 KK unimproved vs 4 opponents

I like everying right up until the point where you contemplate not betting the river.
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Old 02-05-2005, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: Party 15 KK unimproved vs 4 opponents

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I like everying right up until the point where you contemplate not betting the river.

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exactly
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Old 02-05-2005, 07:32 PM
Levi King Levi King is offline
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Default Re: Party 15 KK unimproved vs 4 opponents

If someone has the 9 they would have told you already. Bet the river, call a raise.

As for your question on the flop, checking behind to raise the turn is a terrible idea. You only have one pair and there's lots of cards that could come to hurt you.
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Old 02-06-2005, 04:45 AM
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Default Re: Party 15 KK unimproved vs 4 opponents

Bet the river. If someone had a 9, it's very likely that they would have raised the flop or the turn.
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Old 02-06-2005, 05:40 AM
Kenrick Kenrick is offline
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Default Re: Party 15 KK unimproved vs 4 opponents

I can't wait to see what the three UTG's have. I can think of various things they are calling with, but I get the feeling I will be surprised.
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