First Hand Post...Thoughts?

djg40 · #1 06-15-2005, 02:36 AM

No reads; thoughts on all streets appreciated. Thanks.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, 3 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 raises, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG+2 raises, Hero 3-bets, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

River: (22.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero ???

Final Pot: 22.50 BB

dozer · #2 06-15-2005, 02:43 AM

raise the flop for value, you have a straight flush draw and 2 overcards and the whole field trapped. No one is folding here I am pretty sure.

River sux, but I think you should bet it anyways. You will get called by a lot of weaker hands.

PokerSparky · #3 06-15-2005, 02:44 AM

Horrible river card! SB and BB cold called 3 bets on the turn!?

I'd check the river, but I'm sure a lot of people will claim that's weak tight.

djg40 · #4 06-15-2005, 02:45 AM

If I raised, the whole field would have been faced with calling two more bets. I thought at least one, if not two, would fold. As it stood, I figured all of them would call the raise, if I just called.

SoftcoreRevolt · #5 06-15-2005, 02:48 AM

I'd 3 bet the flop, you have a flush draw, a gutshot straight draw(and a a weak backdoor straight draw as well) and two over cards, which don't seem to be so hot.

Let's call it 13 outs, against this big of a field we have a load of equity, so raise.

Turn is perfect.
I think I just check this river. All the diamonds on the board are low, and we just have the jack.

dozer · #6 06-15-2005, 02:53 AM

You know how people always complain about how players at .50 1. never fold when they get a bad beat?
Well, here is the time to take advantage of that. They are rarely folding in a pot this size for 2 small bets, getting someone to fold hands that have you dominated wouldn't hurt either so if you do hit a J or 10 , it may still be ebough to win.

Aaron W. · #7 06-15-2005, 02:54 AM

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No reads; thoughts on all streets appreciated. Thanks.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, 3 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 raises, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG+2 raises, Hero 3-bets, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

River: (22.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero ???

Final Pot: 22.50 BB

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Go ahead and 3-bet that flop. You've got a very strong draw and lots of people who will make it worth your investment.

Without reads, I'm going to check because I'm going to be unhappy about paying off a check-raise. In fact, with reads, I'm probably still checking unless they're all loose donks who will pay of with weak hands and won't check-raise without the nuts.

SoftcoreRevolt · #8 06-15-2005, 03:08 AM

Well they certaintly aren't going to call TWO big bets on the turn if you hit your flush, so at least get as many of them to come along now when they are capable of calling bets.

Wetdog · #9 06-15-2005, 03:09 AM

I 3bet the flop. I think that you will have to lead the turn because they will "check to the raiser." You'll have to lead the flop too to a smaller crowd.

3betting the flop will change everything.

einbert · #10 06-15-2005, 05:21 AM

Raise the flop, bet the river.