A2s in BB

obsidian · #1 12-21-2005, 10:33 PM

Villain seems to be overly aggressive PF but that is over a small sample:

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 3 folds, MP3 raises, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP3 checks.

Turn: (4 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG folds, MP3 calls, SB folds.

River: (6 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8 BB

tribefan9 · #2 12-21-2005, 10:55 PM

I don't see a need to bet the turn. I would check and hope for an ace. You will not get a pair to fold, and many people will call with overs including better aces that will call a river bet as well.

SGS · #3 12-21-2005, 10:59 PM

Seems fine to me.

SGS

BigEndian · #4 12-22-2005, 12:07 AM

I think I would have let it go on the river and not had the nuts to bet the turn to begin with. Nice bet, I never would have thought ace-high would call you.

- Jim

goofball · #5 12-22-2005, 04:43 AM

Just check the turn. THe pot is small and you don't have a hand, don't bother. What do you think villian has after he calls the turn that you beat? Are you hoping to chop with A9? I don't understand the river call.

Lost Wages · #6 12-22-2005, 12:12 PM

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I don't see a need to bet the turn. I would check and hope for an ace.

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You aren't likely to get a second free card and you won't have the odds to call if someone bets so your choices are to bet or check/fold.

Lost Wages

obsidian · #7 12-22-2005, 12:48 PM

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Just check the turn. THe pot is small and you don't have a hand, don't bother. What do you think villian has after he calls the turn that you beat? Are you hoping to chop with A9? I don't understand the river call.

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Why check the turn? On this board A high is looking pretty damn good. The aggressive PF raiser checked a very harmless looking flop. I doubt he has a pair unless it is 33 (why would he give wheel draws and overcards a free card with and overpair?). Then on the turn SB checked so I doubt he has a pair. The only one I'm worried about at this point is UTG. I think I have the best hand here at least 20% of time and would like to fold live 6-outers.

sy_or_bust · #8 12-22-2005, 12:49 PM

your problem on the turn is a lack of fold equity. you are almost certainly up against a bigger ace that will call you down, or something like KQ/KJ. many of these hands will bet this turn card anyway, and ~all worse hands will check behind the river when you check/call turn.

when you choose to bet, all big aces and many good overcard hands call, and on the river UI you're stuck with a 50/50 hand out of position while your opponent might value bet big aces and fulls or bluff worse hands if you check. if you bet you aren't getting called by a worse hand either.