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#2
10-24-2005, 03:21 PM
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Re: Live NL Flop decision
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i'd probably push. if you call, a turn heart makes this hand impossible to play right oop. a fold is out of the question against normal live game button limping hand range. [/ QUOTE ] In my original response, I was under the impression the button was the original raiser. I am sorry for not reading it correctly. This changes things a little. Hmmm... 
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#3
10-24-2005, 05:00 PM
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Re: Live NL Flop decision
i'd probably push.
I always thought it would be great to give advice that guarantees a person will win a small pot or lose a really really big one. This is a guaranteed case of only getting called if you're beat. Just cause he's an aggro that picks up pots no one else wants doesn't mean he's raising a really scary board into a field of players with garbage. Take a step back and think about what he's telling you for a minute... - BB raised a field of limpers PF. - On an extremely dangerous flop, BB - the PFR - checked, indicating he's weak or wants to cr. - On this dangerous flop, a player has led out, clearly representing an Ace. - He now raises into the PFR by all means indicating he's not scared of the raiser check raising. - He's also leading into a field...more likely trying to shut out draws than having one of his own. The only hand I see it as likely you're ahead of here is K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], and even that is a questionable raising hand at that spot. I think you can fold this and not feel bad about it in the least. - C -
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#5
10-25-2005, 07:22 AM
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Re: Live NL Flop decision
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[ QUOTE ] i'd probably push. This is a guaranteed case of only getting called if you're beat. [/ QUOTE ] play more live. [/ QUOTE ] Vs. avg live 2/5 opponent this is a push or call (if you think you can get more $$ in from him on the turn by just calling). If villain is decent its obviously a fold. Very opponent dependent.
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#6
10-25-2005, 10:31 AM
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Re: Live NL Flop decision
play more live.
Well I would, but I live in Richmond and I already play no less than one live session a week. I also take two to four trips a year up to AC for weekends where I get in 40+ hours of live play. This is all split between limit and NL games. Like I said though, you're only getting called if you're beat. I think you're assuming he's going to call with worse hands just because the original poster described him as LAG. It's one thing to just be some normal LAG. It's another to be a LAG in trying to pick up pots no one else wants but being conservative with your raises. I'm very LAG in that fashion, it mirrors my play. And if you think I'm gonna call an all in reraise with A8, you just don't know me very well. It's a totally different thing if you think you can push a better hand off the pot. I do like the logic of figuring your opponent can't have AK there. I also think AQ is unlikely since most would slowplay such a draw-heavy board with a field of players, but you can never discount a LAG from doing anything since they count on their image for extra action. The problem is that he can make the same assumptions about you if he's holding AJ or AT. You wouldn't have AK, and you're likely going to slowplay AQ - ESPECIALLY if you will be thinking he can put in a raise with a draw. The only better hand a thinking opponent will fold is AT, and even that is a very tough laydown that most people can't make in the heat of the moment. - C -
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