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Old 10-07-2005, 03:48 AM
hobbsmann hobbsmann is offline
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Default Re: Commerce 9/18 super passive AKo

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Bet/fold the river. In all my sessions at the 9/18, I've never seen anyone bluff-raise a river in a 5-handed pot.

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You don't think a random commerce gamb00ler raises a worse K here ~9% of the time?
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Old 10-07-2005, 03:51 AM
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Default Re: Commerce 9/18 super passive AKo

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You don't think a random commerce gamb00ler raises a worse K here ~9% of the time?

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Nope. Never seen it. Not in that spot, not with a Q and J also on the board.
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Old 10-07-2005, 03:54 AM
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Default Re: Commerce 9/18 super passive AKo

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You don't think a random commerce gamb00ler raises a worse K here ~9% of the time?

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Nope. Never seen it. Not in that spot, not with a Q and J also on the board.

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So bet/folding is probably optimal, but I often find myself erring on the side of caution against a fair amount of the clowns in that game for my own sanity.
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Old 10-07-2005, 03:54 AM
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Default Re: Commerce 9/18 super passive AKo

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Bet/fold the river. In all my sessions at the 9/18, I've never seen anyone bluff-raise a river in a 5-handed pot.

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I have.
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Old 10-07-2005, 03:56 AM
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I have.

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Do you think it happens more than 9% of the time? Do you think it happens more than 5% of the time? Have you done it more than 5% of the time?
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Old 10-07-2005, 06:22 PM
gh9801 gh9801 is offline
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Default Re: Commerce 9/18 super passive AKo

River options:

Bet/call - Almost 100% of the time a river raise from a Commerce 9/18 regular is no bs. This seems to chip spew.

Bet/fold - Almost 100% of the time the raiser does have it. But once in a while he doesn't. Big pot fold.

Check/call - Hero often loses value if he doesn't bet. Commerce regulars will call and overcall with [censored] like J8.

Still unsure on river action.
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Old 10-10-2005, 07:04 PM
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Default Re: Commerce 9/18 super passive AKo

Hi gh,

You mentioned super-passive. Even a weak-tight like me would bet the river. You will get called in more than one place. Nice hand.
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Old 10-10-2005, 10:40 PM
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Default Re: Commerce 9/18 super passive AKo

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i think preflop is very close, im checking AQo here, also if i didnt raise PF i think the flop check is fine

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My peronal thoughts on this is that with so many seeing the flop 6+, many must have much poorer hands than AK or AQ. I raise. I call it a 'Garbadge charge'.

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