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11-30-2005, 07:26 PM
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($60) Two pair, meh
I am not pushing this preflop. So don't say it.
Opponent seemed to be playing pretty well, and wasn't overly abusing his stack. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Button (t1500) SB (t3635) Hero (t1375) UTG (t1325) MP1 (t1150) MP2 (t2850) CO (t1665) Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls t100, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks. Flop: (t300) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t200</font>, CO folds, SB calls t200. Turn: (t700) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks. River: (t700) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets t500</font>, Hero calls t500. Final Pot: t1700 
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#2
11-30-2005, 07:33 PM
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Re: ($60) Two pair, meh
looks good to me, you will minimize your losses when you are behind, and encourage a river bluff when you are ahead.
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#3
11-30-2005, 07:34 PM
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Re: ($60) Two pair, meh
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looks good to me, you will minimize your losses when you are behind, and encourage a river bluff when you are ahead. [/ QUOTE ] he'll have 500 left after the river when he is behind...that is pretty much both feet out the door.
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#4
11-30-2005, 07:35 PM
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Re: ($60) Two pair, meh
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looks good to me, you will minimize your losses when you are behind, and encourage a river bluff when you are ahead. [/ QUOTE ] Huh? How can you claim both, when you don't know if you're ahead or not?
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#5
11-30-2005, 07:52 PM
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Re: ($60) Two pair, meh
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[ QUOTE ] looks good to me, you will minimize your losses when you are behind, and encourage a river bluff when you are ahead. [/ QUOTE ] Huh? How can you claim both, when you don't know if you're ahead or not? [/ QUOTE ] If I bet the turn, I lose my whole stack when behind (unless you think I should bet 500 and fold to a checkraise). And if I've got him beat he's folding the turn anyway, but if I call a river bet then those worse hands pay me off sometimes.
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#6
11-30-2005, 07:59 PM
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Re: ($60) Two pair, meh
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] looks good to me, you will minimize your losses when you are behind, and encourage a river bluff when you are ahead. [/ QUOTE ] Huh? How can you claim both, when you don't know if you're ahead or not? [/ QUOTE ] If I bet the turn, I lose my whole stack when behind (unless you think I should bet 500 and fold to a checkraise). And if I've got him beat he's folding the turn anyway, but if I call a river bet then those worse hands pay me off sometimes. [/ QUOTE ] No, on the turn, bet 325 and then you have a decision to make if he pushes. On the river, I guess I'm just not real confident that he's bluffing very often. But your read could very well be better than mine.
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#7
11-30-2005, 08:32 PM
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Re: ($60) Two pair, meh
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looks good to me, you will minimize your losses when you are behind, and encourage a river bluff when you are ahead. [/ QUOTE ] This is what I was thinking. NH [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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#9
11-30-2005, 07:33 PM
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Re: ($60) Two pair, meh
If you're planning on calling that bet on the river, why not push/bet the turn? IOW, 500 is WAYY too much to call here if you're worried about the 6, so if you're not worried about the 6 why check behind the turn? If you do it to try and induce a river bluff, why not raise the river?
something seems off with your line. Unless you were thinking you wanted to induce a river bet then the quantity of it scared you? explain yourself
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#10
11-30-2005, 07:43 PM
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Re: ($60) Two pair, meh
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If you're planning on calling that bet on the river, why not push/bet the turn? [/ QUOTE ] There are plenty of pair + 6 hands that may have check-called the flop and no worse hand is calling my push. [ QUOTE ] IOW, 500 is WAYY too much to call here if you're worried about the 6, so if you're not worried about the 6 why check behind the turn? [/ QUOTE ] I am worried about the 6, I used 2/3 of my time bank before calling. [ QUOTE ] If you do it to try and induce a river bluff, why not raise the river? [/ QUOTE ] Because what bluff hands call me? He'd be insane to call even ~500 more with just A8 or whatever. [ QUOTE ] something seems off with your line. Unless you were thinking you wanted to induce a river bet then the quantity of it scared you? explain yourself [/ QUOTE ] Well, even if he has a 6 I have 4 outs to fill up, that's one reason to check behind. I wasn't sure what I was going to do on a blank river, except that it was either going to be check-fold or check-call. [ QUOTE ] he'll have 500 left after the river when he is behind...that is pretty much both feet out the door. [/ QUOTE ] No, it really isn't, I've come back from worse, and I'd rather have 500 chips left than 0.
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