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Old 12-24-2005, 11:32 PM
TomHimself TomHimself is offline
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Default Re: 2005 PokerStars MTTs: An Overview

I dont think the 180 sngs are dataminded FWIW
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Old 12-24-2005, 11:37 PM
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Default Re: 2005 PokerStars MTTs: An Overview

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I think it would be interesting to see how much stars has pulled in from their micros since adding a 10c,20c, and 30c rake to them.

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$1: 41,325
$2: 42,957
$3: 142,571

TOTAL: $226,853

The rake was added in the middle of October, so Stars should expect at least $1 million in rake from these tournies in 2006 with even a little bit of growth.
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Old 12-24-2005, 11:37 PM
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Well, that and the avg. rake/player/tournament.

I mean, I know I have paid several hundered in tournament rake all by my self and dont play that much really.

I guess this just shows the relative number of micro tournaments to the $2+ fee tournaments(20+2+).

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Remember, that's the avg rake/player/tournament. Not the avg rake/player.

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Right, I was implying that a larger number of entrants and available tournaments with a low buy in bring this number down. Id think that even with one weekly $15 tournament rake tournament with usually over 3k entrants it would bring this up to at least $2. I guess the fact that even the 45k is only $1 per entrant and everything below brings this down also.

Its just really surprising to me that they run so many tournaments, have so many entrants and only pulled 12 mill in tournament fees. Hell, operating costs must take a good bit of that up, and then any overlays and added on prize pools also hit this up.

So I guess what I am slowly getting at is that in relation to the rake gathered in cash games, why would they even worry about us tournament players? Clearly they get a much lower rake from us.
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Old 12-24-2005, 11:37 PM
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I dont think the 180 sngs are dataminded FWIW

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True. I don't mine those.
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Old 12-24-2005, 11:40 PM
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Its just really surprising to me that they run so many tournaments, have so many entrants and only pulled 12 mill in tournament fees. Hell, operating costs must take a good bit of that up, and then any overlays and added on prize pools also hit this up.

So I guess what I am slowly getting at is that in relation to the rake gathered in cash games, why would they even worry about us tournament players? Clearly they get a much lower rake from us.

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$12 million is quite a bit compared to operating costs (I'd guess, anyway). Also, don't forget satellites, STTs, etc. I'd guess that total tournament fees are much much higher than what we're seeing from just MTTs. Cash games, however, are certainly a huge cash stream for any online poker site.
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Old 12-24-2005, 11:40 PM
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I dont think the 180 sngs are dataminded FWIW

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True. I don't mine those.

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Ok, I guess I had a wrong idea as to the method you used to datamine.

nevermind with that idea.
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Old 12-24-2005, 11:53 PM
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Default Re: 2005 PokerStars MTTs: An Overview

Are you set up to determine what fraction of players you've tracked are winning players based on the data you have? While it would be far from conclusive, obviously, I think it would be an interesting statistic all the same.
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Old 12-24-2005, 11:59 PM
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Are you set up to determine what fraction of players you've tracked are winning players based on the data you have? While it would be far from conclusive, obviously, I think it would be an interesting statistic all the same.

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Old 12-25-2005, 12:00 AM
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Default Re: 2005 PokerStars MTTs: An Overview

Yes, we are set up to do that. We may release that info at some point, just not yet.
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