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Old 12-19-2005, 09:26 AM
MicroBob MicroBob is offline
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Default My losing streak wins!!

At the risk of immense ridicule I'm posting some of the details of my now 1000BB+ losing string (yup...I said 1-freaking-thousand)!!!

Disclaimer: I'm not even pretending that I'm playing a winning game anymore although I really don't think my game is THAT god-awful. But obviously this goes far beyond what most would consider the regular bounds for a winning player's 'variance'.

Time to step away for a little while perhaps?? I suspect so (yet again).


Most of the recommendations are kind of obvious of course:
-- play fewer tables and focus
-- take a break and don't play for a few days
-- read, read, read (in strategy forums and SSHE, etc)
-- play full tables and just play weak-tight fit-or-fold poker to lessen the swings (which I've been doing...but the losing continues on and on and on)
-- don't get crazy over blind battles


Actually, I've been doing well in the occasional satellites and other tourneys I've been playing. So I might be off to low buy-in SNG's for awhile to rebuild bankroll and confidence (which is totally in the toilet now of course).

Maybe I'll just throw in 1 table of lowish-limit 6-max on the side while playing a couple tourneys. It's a thought.


Anyway - here are my fun-filled stats for your amusement (should make you all feel better about your own 'downswings'):


Today: another -60BB's in 1600 hands

Party since Nov 15:
33k hands, -1.31BB/100 at 5/10 and 3/6.
-439BB's total

UB since Dec 6:
33k hands, 1.88BB/100 at 3/6 and 2/4
-623BB's total


Yup - I've dropped 1071 BB's in the past month.
Impressive?? I sure think so.

It's been mostly just 30-40 or so BB's per day. Fun!!


It's difficult to seperate out the 6-max stats from the full-table stats at UB...so I'll just give some of my party 6-max stats (stats should generally be the same).

VP - 23
PFR - 18
FSB - 84
FBB - 68
WtSD - 35
W$SD - 51
W$WSF - 40

except for the low W$SD these numbers look pretty reasonable to me.


Ag-F - 3.0
Ag-T - 2.4
Ag-R - 1.8
Ag-total - 2.5


I'm raising much less these days trying to passivefy my play and keep myself tied to fewer pots:

By position (VP/PFR/WtSD/W$SD/BB/100):
UTG - 20/19/44/59/0.07
MP - 21/20/44/56/0.13
CO - 23/20/35/53/0.06
B - 24/20/40/56/0.09
SB - 24/20/39/55/(0.05)
BB - 20/9/26/46/(0.30)



My BB play looks glaringly bad obviously.
I know I've run into a lot of rivered 2-pairs after flopping top pair....or just whiffing with 98 on board of over-cards and stuff like that...but obviously I'm pretty in the wrong here still.


Breaking down the past few days of my losing streak:
12/19, -60
12/18, -17
12/17, -65 (3.9BB/100)
12/16, -29 (actually won $14, won at 3/6 and lost at 2/4)
12/15, -37
12/14, -92
12/13, -5 (actually won $100 though)
12/12, -47
12/11, +27
12/10, -138
12/09, +24
12/08, -102
12/07, -42
12/06, -55


And so on and so on and so on.
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:08 AM
pecto pecto is offline
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Default Re: My losing streak wins!!

I can really feel your pain. I play at those levels too and i'm on a 26k hands break even stretch. And I've been through a -300 bb.

Trying to relearn the gme is not a bad idea. I'm starting to think that the 23-25/ 15-18 no longer works as good as it did before in this games. I'm starting to induce more bluffs and check and call a lot more, because there are less people now that pay off with crap and people are more agressive now. Probably nowadays 5/10 is very similar to the old 10/20 from 1 year ago and I've never beaten that game for a big rate. Keep thinking about poker and you'll find the way to keep winning
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:15 AM
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Default Re: My losing streak wins!!

Aggression is too high. Try to get the total aggression to around 2. Don't force your opponents to fold worse hands and raise you with better ones. Check/calling your way to money is not only +EV against aggressive opponents but it is really fun to do.

Everything else looks pretty standard, but I would try to defend your blind a little more often.

Just FYI--

If I were to sit at a table and see a 23/17/2.5, I would not be particularly worried. The people that really scare me are the 27/20/2.0 people.
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:28 AM
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Default Re: My losing streak wins!!

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Check/calling your way to money is not only +EV against aggressive opponents but it is really fun to do.

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Yeah...I've been bringing my aggression down of late.
I agree that I could check-call more...and also perhaps not push quite as much with winners (I'm always freaking driving my opponents out).
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Old 12-20-2005, 07:29 AM
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Default Re: My losing streak wins!!

[ QUOTE ]
Just FYI--

If I were to sit at a table and see a 23/17/2.5, I would not be particularly worried. The people that really scare me are the 27/20/2.0 people.

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This is silly. There really isn't that much difference.

For example, at one table I can play 27/20, while at the other table I can play 23/17. Just based on differences in game texture, relative position, etc.
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Old 12-20-2005, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: My losing streak wins!!


"How many cookies did you have to open before you got that one?"


It was actually the first/only one. I have it on my computer now.
Forget what my GF's fortune was but it was pretty good too.

I'm still hoping that poker counts as a 'personal' affair.

I dreamt last night that my GF and I were in France...so maybe I'll win one of those EPT-France things coming up. (also in the dream....after 2 days there we discovered that my cat had snuck along in my suitcase...and later we bumped into my ex-wife...weird)
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Old 12-20-2005, 09:38 PM
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Default Re: My losing streak wins!!

I'm figuring out how to graph and screen-shot now (just screwing around because I'm not going to play any limit games tonight).
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:20 AM
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Default Re: My losing streak wins!!

I agree with playing more hands. I'm about 31/19 at Party 5/10. I think if you find loose passive tables you can play a lot more hands.
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Old 12-19-2005, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: My losing streak wins!!

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I agree with playing more hands.

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Count me in the people who totally disagree.

If I were MB I'd be wanting to play less hands right now. BTW, his OP was tl;dr so I dont know his stats anyways.
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:22 AM
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Default Re: My losing streak wins!!

Holy $hit.
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