wondering how good i can play?

krisco · #1 05-26-2005, 12:22 PM

We have been playing a weekly NLHE tour. for 2 years now. it is usually 15 to 20 players every week.i think that there are at least 5 to 6 good players playing.We have a 100 dollar buy in and pay 3 places. I have finished in the top 3 everytime except about 5% of the time.I have been to horse and won a couple of super satellites. but i am jiust nervous about moving up to 1000 to 2000 buyin tour.i think i am a decent player.any thoughts please on making th jump to higher buyins thanks.

smoore · #2 05-26-2005, 12:27 PM

That's a big jump. We truly don't have enough information, I'd say take some of your profit, go ahead and take the shot. I'd treat it just so though, as a SHOT... be prepared to go back to your $100 buyins if you fail.

kyro · #3 05-26-2005, 12:43 PM

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We have been playing a weekly NLHE tour. for 2 years now. it is usually 15 to 20 players every week.i think that there are at least 5 to 6 good players playing.We have a 100 dollar buy in and pay 3 places. I have finished in the top 3 everytime except about 5% of the time.I have been to horse and won a couple of super satellites. but i am jiust nervous about moving up to 1000 to 2000 buyin tour.i think i am a decent player.any thoughts please on making th jump to higher buyins thanks.

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You've finished in the top 10-20% of all players 95% of the time? You'll forgive me if I don't believe you?

krisco · #4 05-26-2005, 12:57 PM

i am telling the truth. another player who finishes well every week jokes about who is going to take the crown away from me every week, lol. i almost won my way into the WPT at horseshoe in january.won a sattelite and finished 18th out of 262 in super sat. i go play in 10/ 20 limit tables some and start with about 300dollars. i have won 1500 to 2000 on some trips.i have been maybe 8 times.i have won 5 out of 8 times. lost 100 to 200 other times. i just wanted to know how i stood against people that play for bigger limits.thanks again

kyro · #5 05-26-2005, 01:11 PM

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i am telling the truth. another player who finishes well every week jokes about who is going to take the crown away from me every week, lol. i almost won my way into the WPT at horseshoe in january.won a sattelite and finished 18th out of 262 in super sat. i go play in 10/ 20 limit tables some and start with about 300dollars. i have won 1500 to 2000 on some trips.i have been maybe 8 times.i have won 5 out of 8 times. lost 100 to 200 other times. i just wanted to know how i stood against people that play for bigger limits.thanks again

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I myself have no idea how you would do against other players. If you've monied 95% of the time over 2 years, one of two things is happening. Either you're lucky as all hell. Or you are playing against the most braindead, retarded people in the world, and you're just sitting back and letting them bust each other. You can play absolutely perfect poker over the course of a tourney and still not money. 95% is unattainable provided you're not playing with people are all in on the first hand with 84o.

SamIAm · #6 05-26-2005, 01:56 PM

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95% is unattainable provided you're not playing with people are all in on the first hand with 84o.

[/ QUOTE ]Don't worry; if they went all in with 84o you STILL wouldn't be 95% to place. Hell, you wouldn't be 95% to win THAT hand, and if you did double up, that doesn't guarantee you'll make the money.

I, too, take issue with your 95% claim.
-Sam

krisco · #7 05-26-2005, 03:42 PM

o.k. as actual % goes i dont know.but we have a big tour. at the end of the year, the pot was 4600 dollars winner take all.i won it we had 24 players that night.since jan.i have been inthe money every week sometimes its third sometimes i win etc.we play every thursday night. i usually play conservative at first till we get down to about 6 to 7 players.i played like crap when we first started 2 years ago but i can just about tell you what anybody has got now.remember the same people play every week.sometimes we have a new person show up.after abou 2 months i started playing good and seems like i get better every week. thanks

ddollevoet · #8 05-26-2005, 03:58 PM

There is another way to see how good of a player you are without moving up to $1,000 or $2,000 buy-ins yet. Get online and play a couple big $100 tourneys. See how you fair against a couple hundred players rather than a couple dozen. If you fair well, move up. IF you don't, keep milking your friends for their money. Good luck.

RiverDood · #9 05-26-2005, 09:19 PM

Here's a quick quiz to help you decide whether you want to be playing $1000 buyins. (I'm assuming these are one-table or two-table affairs.)

Suppose you're in a $1000-buyin tournament where the top three places get paid. It's down to 6 players and the blinds are getting steep. You've got maybe 7x the BB and are in fifth place. Three folds and it's to you on the button. You pick up 99.

Do you push? Raise? Fold? Call?

Assume you push and bust out to a deep-stacked caller with AQ who pairs on the flop.

You play again the next week. Same situation. You're on the button again with 99. This time you min raise. The SB folds and the BB calls. The flop comes 873rainbow and it's checked to you. You push and are called. Villain turns over 77. You lose.

Same situation a third week. Now you've lost $2000 playing aggressively. Your financial obligations are whatever they are. You've got 99 on the button again. Do you push? Raise? Call? Fold?

If you genuinely think you can play the hand unflinchingly each time, you're probably psychologically ready to play for bigger stakes. If you don't want to fail more than once on the same play -- even if it's the right logical path -- the extra stakes are going to make you nervous. Take a hard look at your bankroll and ask yourself if you can stomach some variance before you get back to your winning ways.

Fiddle with the example if you don't like 99 for some reason. But you get the basic point. Are you willing to play poker at high levels, even if you lose the first couple times?

Stew · #10 05-26-2005, 09:49 PM

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o.k. as actual % goes i dont know.but we have a big tour. at the end of the year, the pot was 4600 dollars winner take all.i won it we had 24 players that night.since jan.i have been inthe money every week sometimes its third sometimes i win etc.we play every thursday night. i usually play conservative at first till we get down to about 6 to 7 players.i played like crap when we first started 2 years ago but i can just about tell you what anybody has got now.remember the same people play every week.sometimes we have a new person show up.after abou 2 months i started playing good and seems like i get better every week. thanks

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Three posts, three good examples of BS.