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Old 10-07-2005, 12:00 AM
play2win play2win is offline
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Default Hit the Flush on the Turn First Player to Act Moves All-in.....

This hand just happened to me a few hours ago:

Scenario:

Live home game
NL $20 buy-in tourney
13 players buy in
Top 3 spots pay out

Play up to date:

I have been getting some good cards, flops have been hitting me as well. I have pushed QQ a few times and never shown down. But all 4 hands I showed were strong.

I have knocked out 3 out of the 4 players gone.

9 handed

Hand in question (counts are approx):

Blinds 5/10

Hero BB (approx 750)
UTG-mid pos (all about 200)
CO (275)
Button (225)
SB (790)

SB: he is a novice player, so he has made some strange plays. I don’t have a solid tell on him yet. He mirco-re-raised a set (about ¼ the original bet), nobody said anything because he is new. I have seen him bet out on a high card first to act. He has taken down some big pots with increasing his bets on every street and has not shown down much.

The rest of the players are decent to solid and I have played against them for over 1 year.

All players fold

CO calls
Button calls
SB calls
Hero BB 7d 2d Checks

Pot = 40

Flop: Ac 3d 8d

SB: bets 25
Hero: calls

CO: calls

Button: Folds

Turn: Ad

SB: Moves all-in

Hero??
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Old 10-07-2005, 12:05 AM
gobboboy gobboboy is offline
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Default Re: Hit the Flush on the Turn First Player to Act Moves All-in.....

He probably has a bad ace. Insta call.
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Old 10-07-2005, 12:21 AM
odiggity odiggity is offline
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Default Re: Hit the Flush on the Turn First Player to Act Moves All-in.....

seems like u can out play them. he's the only player at the table that can bust or cripple u. he could have house and hoping to get called by flush. tough lay down but he could have better flush or suck out his weak ace. he could suck out better diamond too. probably could wait for better spot to pounce on these fools.
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Old 10-07-2005, 12:30 AM
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Default Re: Hit the Flush on the Turn First Player to Act Moves All-in.....

I agree with odiggity. I just don't think this is the pot that you should put your tournament on. There is a few things that could beat you now and a bunch of things on the river (higher flush, higher boat). I would pick a better spot to take his chips since you know you can outplay him.
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Old 10-07-2005, 01:27 AM
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Default Re: Hit the Flush on the Turn First Player to Act Moves All-in.....

I call all day. In a 5-handed game you can't just sit there waiting until you get dealt the nuts against the weakest player.
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Old 10-07-2005, 01:43 AM
runout_mick runout_mick is offline
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Default Re: Hit the Flush on the Turn First Player to Act Moves All-in.....

He IS the weakest player. Weak players are those most likely to move like this with the nuts (What's a slowplay? Is that where you take like 2 minutes to act?). There's so very little in this pot that I sincerely cannot justify a call vs a player this new (made less than a minraise previously). Against a more experienced player I can find a call, but against a guy who's wondering why his 3 pair just lost to a two pair, I gotta lay this down...
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Old 10-07-2005, 01:49 AM
TomHimself TomHimself is offline
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Default Re: Hit the Flush on the Turn First Player to Act Moves All-in.....

from my experience weak players LOVE to slowplay and they def. over do it.

fnurt made another good post [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-07-2005, 01:59 AM
locutus2002 locutus2002 is offline
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Default Re: Hit the Flush on the Turn First Player to Act Moves All-in.....

I'd fold this.

One things for sure he's not bluffing.

There are about ~20 full houses, about ~25 flushes (almost all of which beat you)
There are about ~80 aces (that have ~10 outs)

So its about a coin toss (60 vs. 60) if you include the outs.

I don't like the call because you have EV in this tournament.
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Old 10-07-2005, 01:59 AM
tshak tshak is offline
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Default Re: Hit the Flush on the Turn First Player to Act Moves All-in.....

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from my experience weak players LOVE to slowplay and they def. over do it.


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Old 10-07-2005, 03:03 AM
nath nath is offline
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Default Re: Hit the Flush on the Turn First Player to Act Moves All-in.....

The guy bets out high cards, jacks up his bets every round, doesn't show down strong hands, and you're all putting him on a house?

I make that call in a second.
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