Some confusing hands

pearljam · #1 08-06-2005, 05:17 PM

All of these are 30+3's, by the way for anybody who cares im 5% ROI over my first 300 which is disapointing, I was hoping for 10%, but im confident that I played well and deserved 10%.

Hand #1

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (8 handed) converter

CO (t1240)
Button (t510)
SB (t1160)
BB (t695)
UTG (t1320)
UTG+1 (t1230)
MP1 (t760)
Hero (t1085)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 raises to t450, Hero raises to t1085 (All-In), 4 folds, MP1 calls t310 (All-In).

Flop: (t2070) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t2070) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t2070) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: t2070

It really burns me when I pay this stupid bet off, it seems like they havea higher pair when they make this stupid bet so often that I should just be folding this, of course if he open pushes I automatically call, is there any way I fold this without reads in a $33?

Hand #2

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) converter

Hero (t745)
BB (t680)
UTG (t715)
UTG+1 (t515)
UTG+2 (t985)
MP1 (t605)
MP2 (t675)
MP3 (t390)
CO (t1330)
Button (t1360)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, UTG+1 calls t30, 6 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t120) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets t60, BB raises to t200, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to t715 (All-In), BB calls t450 (All-In).

Turn: (t1485) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t1485) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: t1485

Should I have checked the flop? If so what is my plan from there? Should I bet and then fold to this raise? It seemed too likely for him to be "protecting" his 2 as most $33'ers would slowplay an 8 here, at least that was my logic during the hand.

Hand #3

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) converter

Hero (t725)
MP2 (t795)
CO (t675)
Button (t1660)
SB (t770)
BB (t970)
UTG (t1165)
UTG+1 (t1240)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of t100.
5 folds, CO raises to t250, 2 folds.

Final Pot: t350

Is this a push? I really have no idea with the SB not there.

Hand #4

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

BB (t1705)
UTG (t1830)
Button (t1700)
Hero (t2765)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises to t400, 1 fold, Hero raises to t2765 (All-In), 1 fold, UTG folds.

Final Pot: t3365

Standard? or does the risk of him callign with a big pair or something that coinflips me too big here, especially without a dominant chip lead?

Any feedback would be great.

tigerite · #2 08-06-2005, 05:19 PM

Hand 1 - are you kidding? I pushed with ATo into an early raiser, and he called with QTs, which didn't suck out on me, for all his chips. No way do you always see a higher pair, or even two overcards here, I get my money in with JJ here every time. At the 33's or otherwise.

Hand 2 I either flat call his raise or fold, I don't think I would re-raise here, there's really no point.

Hand 3 Easy push

Hand 4 Read dependent to be honest

pearljam · #3 08-06-2005, 05:21 PM

yea but the last 2 times this happened they had an overpair, so clearly this happens everytime they make this strange raise.

tigerite · #4 08-06-2005, 05:22 PM

It definitely doesn't always happen, believe me. I've pushed with far worse than JJ (albeit from the BB) in these situations and got folds, or calls from absolute crap, at the $33's.

pearljam · #5 08-06-2005, 05:24 PM

Yea I know it doesnt, after reading ur first reply I realized the error in my thought process so made a joking reply. What do u think about the other hands?

axeshigh · #6 08-06-2005, 05:34 PM

Hand 1 - Push
Hand 2 - Fold (I guess you are posting the hand because he had clubs and rivered the flush, but there are many other hands that beat you and I see no reason to gamble for a small pot early).
Hand 3 - Push
Hand 4 - I may call and see a flop or push here, it depends on any things.

tigerite's sarcasm detector is broken.