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Old 05-16-2005, 03:34 PM
grjr grjr is offline
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Default Anybody play these 3 hands differently?

No reads on anyone.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (9 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 17 BB

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 folds, SB folds.

Turn: (4 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls.

River: (6 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 12 BB

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, UTG+1 folds.

River: (7.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.50 BB
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Old 05-16-2005, 03:37 PM
krishanleong krishanleong is offline
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Default Re: Anybody play these 3 hands differently?

hand 3 sucks. It looks like you blew away the field with a solid draw.

Krishan
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Old 05-16-2005, 03:38 PM
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Default Re: Anybody play these 3 hands differently?

seems completely standard. out of curiosity what made you post these hands?

edit - crap i missed hand 3. what he said.
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Old 05-16-2005, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: Anybody play these 3 hands differently?

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seems completely standard. out of curiosity what made you post these hands?


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Ok, I admit that I posted these as a little bit of a whine but I mainly wanted to see what everyone thought about the river 3-bets.

After running roughshod over Party all weekend I should have known I was in trouble today when my amazing 20 hand streak of winning with AA was snapped by a single caller with Q6. I can't remember a single bad suck-out all weekend and then today I lose all 3 of these hands to runner runner in a 10 minute span.

I agree the the flop raise was bad in the 3rd hand. I believe it was the very next hand after hand 2 and I wasn't thinking clearly. I also didn't see the 3 flush on the board or I wouldn't have 3-bet the river.

My main concern was the river 3-bets in the first 2 hands. In the past I would have just called the raises because it seemed every time I 3-bet without the nuts I got beat. I'm trying to be more aggressive now so I figured I'd carry it to the river. I was just curious as to whether everyone here would 3-bet or just some and I got my answer. Thanks!

Side note-- It's incredible to me how much your luck can change from one day to the next. I know the cards are random but boy, they sure don't seem like it somedays.
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Old 05-16-2005, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: Anybody play these 3 hands differently?

Hand 1: Some might argue that you shouldn't 3-bet the river - but not me. I 3-bet almost every time.

Hand 3: Just call the flop in hand 3.
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Old 05-16-2005, 03:44 PM
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Default Re: Anybody play these 3 hands differently?

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Hand 1: Some might argue that you shouldn't 3-bet the river - but not me. I 3-bet almost every time.

Hand 3: Just call the flop in hand 3.

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How about the river in hand 2?
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Old 05-16-2005, 03:55 PM
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Default Re: Anybody play these 3 hands differently?

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Hand 1: Some might argue that you shouldn't 3-bet the river - but not me. I 3-bet almost every time.

Hand 3: Just call the flop in hand 3.

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How about the river in hand 2?

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what about it? he probably has an Ace that paired on the turn, was afraid of a 2 pair, then gets his 3rd on the river and thinx they're goot. nail him! if he has the rivered full house...lucky schmoe, oh well [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 05-16-2005, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: Anybody play these 3 hands differently?

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Hand 1: Some might argue that you shouldn't 3-bet the river - but not me. I 3-bet almost every time.

Hand 3: Just call the flop in hand 3.

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How about the river in hand 2?

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I think you played this fine. You'll see just a naked A most often, rivered boat sometimes but least often. The raise is a solid value.
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Old 05-16-2005, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: Anybody play these 3 hands differently?

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Hand 1: Some might argue that you shouldn't 3-bet the river - but not me. I 3-bet almost every time.

Hand 3: Just call the flop in hand 3.

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hahaha, that's what i was thinking when i read the hand: not to 3-bet, but after thinking about it, there is no reason to give him credit for a boat or slowplayed trips or an obscure Kx pairing.

i still don't think i could 3-bet though. on the turn, he probably has a good idea we have the flush and he's still raising us on the river.
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Old 05-16-2005, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: Anybody play these 3 hands differently?

First two, I play exactly the same.

Third hand, I don't like the flop raise, making the field face 2 cold. If you could trap a lot of players for bets, it's great. But here no one is between. Turn is great. River, I fear a flush once my 3 bet is capped, but I think you (obviously) have to call, and will get paid here enough by TT, 66, AT, A5 and A6 to make it worth the 3 bet in the first place.
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