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Old 12-17-2005, 11:36 AM
Isura Isura is offline
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Default Kinda deep hand - overbet

Villain is loose passive postflop. He would never lead the flop with a hand better than mine. I know he will chase a spade draw, and he'll check/call with Ax, two pair, and a set. I interrpreted his weak river bet as a cheap showdown play, or a stupid valubet with Ax (he has two pair now!). I've been 1-tablign and playing fairly lag, but I doubt anyone has noticed. Thoughts?

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($97.85)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($148.50)</font>
MP ($336.20)
CO ($109.50)
Button ($97.50)
<font color="#C00000">SB ($224.30)</font>

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB (poster) calls $3.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($9) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, SB calls $8.

Turn: ($25) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, SB calls $20.

River: ($65) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $116.50 (all-in),
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Old 12-17-2005, 12:01 PM
Morrek Morrek is offline
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Default Re: Kinda deep hand - overbet

I like it... hope you didn't lose to 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 12-17-2005, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: Kinda deep hand - overbet

I like it. Villian seems willing to put money in the pot, this is perfect time for overbet.
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Old 12-18-2005, 12:01 AM
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So, what are my other options besides calling? Raise to $50 and fold to a push? But I never know what these guys will do on the river when there is already so much money in there. I didn't feel I could fold to a push here, so I just shoved and hoped to get a call.

Results: Villain instacalls with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J and my hand is good.
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Old 12-18-2005, 12:06 AM
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Why would you want to fold this? Only "reasonable" hand that beats you is AA?
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Old 12-18-2005, 01:54 AM
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Default Re: Kinda deep hand - overbet

I like the push. I think this is something I need to do a lot more often. I have been raising to 30-60 here thinking they are more likely to call only to see them call and turn over a weaker Jack, a flush or fold. Basically it seems clear that you have to raise and somebody thats going to call a small raise is going to call a big raise so tax the kusty.
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Old 12-18-2005, 01:58 AM
beeyjay beeyjay is offline
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It never even crossed my mind to fold here. The only reason to raise to 50 I think would be that you thought thats the most he will pay off but I can't put him on a hand here that pays off 50 and not a push. To call 50 I think he has to have at least a Jack, flush, or weaker boat - all of which I think will call a push. If I'm behind here I happily throw away my stack.
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Old 12-18-2005, 02:04 AM
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Default Re: Kinda deep hand - overbet

NH I'm suprised he called. I've missed these overbets 4/4 times today.
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Old 12-18-2005, 02:14 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
To call 50 I think he has to have at least a Jack, flush, or weaker boat - all of which I think will call a push.

[/ QUOTE ]

Exactly
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Old 12-18-2005, 03:42 AM
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I like the push. At lower stakes players seem to think that a push means a bluff.
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