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Old 12-15-2005, 02:39 PM
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We are talking about a natural plant here, not someone breaking a commandment.

You are the worst agruer on the forum.

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You confuse commandments with crimes.

You confuse plants with crimes.

Both murder and drugs ruin people's lives, in different ways and to different degrees. Crimes are crimes for a reason. In time, as you mature, you will understand this.

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"Crimes are crimes for a reason" is one of the dumbest generalizations I've ever heard. I guess we better stop questioning laws then, right?
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:45 PM
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"Crimes are crimes for a reason" is one of the dumbest generalizations I've ever heard. I guess we better stop questioning laws then, right?

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Of course we can question our laws. In fact these laws have often been questioned, and the voters, who make the decisions, have repeatedly sent legislators who support the criminalization of harmful drugs.

Crimes are crimes because the people throuogh their representatives want them to be crimes. Go ahead and call that a generalization, but the American people want drugs criminalized.
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: Cory Maye, another drug war victim

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"Crimes are crimes for a reason" is one of the dumbest generalizations I've ever heard. I guess we better stop questioning laws then, right?

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Of course we can question our laws. In fact these laws have often been questioned, and the voters, who make the decisions, have repeatedly sent legislators who support the criminalization of harmful drugs.

Crimes are crimes because the people throuogh their representatives want them to be crimes. Go ahead and call that a generalization, but the American people want drugs criminalized.

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So your "reason" is popular support? What about laws that don't have popular support? And does popular support always justify a law that may be inefficien, corrupt, or unjust in practice?
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:59 PM
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Crimes are crimes because the people throuogh their representatives want them to be crimes. Go ahead and call that a generalization, but the American people want drugs criminalized.

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If people want weed to be illegal, then why does the federal government literally spend hundreds of millions of dollars to buy propaganda on televison to tell us how bad it is.

Remember the superbowl commercial linking pot to terrorism? Or the one where the baby drowned because her babysitter was smoking up?
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:01 PM
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If people want weed to be illegal, then why does the federal government literally spend hundreds of millions of dollars to buy propaganda on televison to tell us how bad it is.


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It couldn't possibly be because they want to make people aware of the dangers of drugs and curb drug use. No. It couldn't possibly be that. It must be something else.
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:03 PM
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The ads completely distort and LIE about the effects in a sensational way.

How many federally funded ads have you seen about cigarettes? Weed has never killed anyone. Cigarettes have killed millions, including two of my uncles, so far.

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It couldn't possibly be because they want to make people aware of the dangers of drugs and curb drug use. No. It couldn't possibly be that. It must be something else.

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Old 12-15-2005, 03:21 PM
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If people want weed to be illegal, then why does the federal government literally spend hundreds of millions of dollars to buy propaganda on televison to tell us how bad it is.


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It couldn't possibly be because they want to make people aware of the dangers of drugs and curb drug use. No. It couldn't possibly be that. It must be something else.

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We're told that the politicians are elected because the populace already knows and believes this. What then is the point of propaganda?

This reminds me of the advertising for food stamps and the post office. We're stuck with the bill, paying for "services" and programs that nobody wants. So instead of getting rid of the programs, they advertise for them instead. Brilliant.
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Old 12-16-2005, 10:32 AM
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If people want weed to be illegal, then why does the federal government literally spend hundreds of millions of dollars to buy propaganda on televison to tell us how bad it is.


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It couldn't possibly be because they want to make people aware of the dangers of drugs and curb drug use. No. It couldn't possibly be that. It must be something else.

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You're right. Promiscuous sex is also dangerous, so I'll show a commercial where a guy bangs a bunch of chicks, then gets abducted by aliens where they probe and torture him for 10,000 years.

That makes as much sense as the commercials these days about marijuana (ever see the one where the kid is getting chased by a vicious rottweiler through a fenced-off property on a dare...because he smoked a joint the day before? Or the one where the kid had to get surgery for fitting his entire fist in his mouth and couldn't get it out...because he smoked pot on a dare, and figured he'd try this too? Or the one where the two kids in the drive-through run over a little girl on a bicycle? Or the one where two kids are sitting at home and one pulls out a loaded gun and accidentally shoots the other for no reason?)

If you're going to make an anti-marijuana commercial, at least try to be halfway realistic. Show a guy in his late twenties with no job, no car and no girl, living at home with his parents, smoking weed and watching cartoons. That's pretty much the extreme end on how marijuana can [censored] up your life, and it's pretty hard to blame it on the bud.
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